Same.

Other week RS had me agreeing with a Bradford fan, this week it's Wilkin.
That's horrible

I'm still watching Leeds and wanting to see signs of recovery under RS; we need bodies back to do that.

However. He has left himself at risk of bad luck now: if Croft or one or two other key players gets injured, I don't think he'll survive the backlash from fans simply on the number of losses, and I think his recruitment has been too patchy so far.

I'm not sure Rowley is the right man to replace him if it happens, or if he would come. Demetriou is a potential candidate; his star was very high over there for a while, he knows the English game - maybe he would take the chance to rebuild his reputation at Leeds.

I'm also thinking Shaun Wane. I know people thought Wigan were boring under him but his record is pretty good - and what he is, arguably, is what we need for a young squad. He has faith in young lads but he's also disciplinarian and structured.

Ryan Carr is the other one who had a really good rep while he was here, spend a little time at Leeds before heading out down under again, never heard a bad word said about him but don't know if he'd come.

Interesting times anyway.

From the outside looking in, the number of ex-players in administrative and coaching roles at Leeds looks questionable. Are these people in place on merit other than distant achievements on the playing field? I guess it is common at a lot of SL clubs.

Clearly poor recollection on my part, maybe because of the Great Britain tour.

My point still stands that even the top coaches do not guarantee success.

Nothing guarantees success, having a decent coach increases the chances of success.

Having a poor coach dramatically reduces your chances.

I know this is revolutionary stuff.

Agreed, and let’s not pretend there’s not an element of luck involved. RS had a similar pedigree to Woolf and Holbrook, who came over and were brilliant. Wire took a huge gamble in appointing Sam Burgess who doesn’t have a fraction of RS’s coaching experience.

I’m not saying Wire will win the comp, but I know who I’d rather have in charge right now.

RS was always a hugely risky move. Time for GH to come out and admit this punt has worked out and move on asap. I still think a decent coach could get a lot out of this squad.

Sam B will most likely just bide his time before going back to Aus I think. Also he's a petulant fella when he wants to be, he needs to grow up a bit to be a head coach frankly.

What he does do is inspire the team and clearly drills hard defence into them, as you would expect. You can at least see his influence on them.

Against us, Wire have been the best side I've seen this year so far, I thought they looked very good.

I still don't think the squad we have is quite there. We have work to do with a couple more key signings; coaching appointments will likely change at the end of the year in some form or another.

I'll raise your epic and put down irrelevant the current team is not remotely close to the above mentioned title winning teams. My question to the more knowledgeable attendees on here is who/when/and how are we going to challenge for silverware?

The Momster you're having a laugh I've seen more meat on a butcher's pencil copy and paste the earth shattering wrecking ball Fusitua un interested journey men living of performances playing in quality teams, their not now and have been found out like it or not the proof is reality former Dudd latter looking the former!

Eh?

I think in English he doesn't rate him......

at the moment me neither, but it's early days for him

Think he’s been carrying an injury all season and has just been managing it so far up to re-aggravating it and then needing surgery.

Think he will do a decent job once back to full fitness.

I was hoping Momorovski would be better but eel he has been slowly improving and I am hoping in time he will be a good player for Leeds.

Wasn't Mom the one that missed pre season due to family stuff and the move?.

Bit unlucky as with any injury,I think people are just so frustrated with how often Fusi and Newman are out that now any new guy that gets an injury will be the cherry on the cake for the tipping point

When you make decisions about coaches you have to support them through the really tough times and support the changes they want to make. You cannot be forever looking back as to how it was in your day and your methods of working. That was a major issue. If the coach is not supported by a senior player who is using a divide and conquer strategy with players in the squad the coach has no chance unless he removes the player which wasn't an option. Perhaps if Furner had a squad all pulling in the same direction things could have been different.

That's nonsense. Under Furner we lost eight of our first ten games. He brought over the hopelessly unfit Lolohea and kept picking him, amongst other bad decisions. If Lolohea had been a world beater and we hadn't been playing terribly then even if JJB or others were muttering behind the scenes they wouldn't have been listened to.

Before us Furner's tenure of the Raiders was a chaotic mess. He was only appointed there because of his links with the club (sounds familiar?) and his dad. If he had been anyone else he would have been gone more than a year before he was eventually kicked out, with a 43% win rate over five generally dire seasons.

Once he was hooked at the Raiders he didn't get a look-in as a first team coach anywhere else for SIX years until Leeds brought him in. Lots of NRL jobs came and went in that time. Nobody else was interested.

Not defending Furner, but pretty sure Lolohea was a McDermott signing before the axe finally fell. Either that or he was a Sinfield signing before Furner arrived.

That’s f’king painful to read.

Arthur - you may be right as Lolohea signed a month or so before Furner was announced as coach, but both he and Hurrell played for Tonga when Furner was assistant coach, and I think he probably had a lot to do with them both joining Leeds. Utter mare of a coach regardless.

Someone on here said as soon as Souths come calling Sam Burgess will be gone....... im calling them out!! Because anyone who knows the lad would not have said it even as a school boy he was clever and honest give him some credit he's ten fold what we have.

Brad Arthur is now available

Can't work out whether you're serious or not - by that benchmark RS has still another 7 years to prove himself.....

"The 49-year-old Arthur had been Eels coach since 2014 and took the club to the grand final in 2022 where they lost to Penrith. But he failed to win a premiership in a decade at the helm and the Eels are languishing in 14th on the ladder with three wins from 10 games in 2024"

that's a far tougher comp.
Arthur's twice the coach smith is.

lois Forsells a better coach than smith is!!!

With a bigger pool of better quality players and a bigger salary cap and yet he's still won nothing in 12 seasons
Career games 264, wins 137, losses 127 a win percentage of 52%

Have a word with yourself.

you stick with the bald fraud.
enjoy dumbass rugby