I'd like to see us use it to bring in that Union bloke.. Sinfield or something.

Gives us a bit more cap space to potentially keep some of the better players and allows other clubs the opportunity to blow a lot of money they don't have on some old Australians.

I like Tad's idea of rewarding clubs that develop talent by cutting academy trained players contribution to the cap. Although that could lead to some kids with short sighted agents (ie. all of them) trying to leverage more money out of clubs at an earlier age by saying the cap space is available later on if the club retains the player.

Will Rangi Chase be wanting a rise now?

Does the additional £10k cap space for players in the ETS or Knights squad (up to a maximum of £100k per club, per year) go to the club that player is currently at, or the one where he would count as club-trained?

So if say Ratchford and Clark both play for England in the autumn, do Warrington get an extra £20k on their cap despite having very little to do with their development or do Salford and Cas get £10k each?

Here's what I said. I never said the players were on the same salaries.



If that is too difficult for you to understand I'm not your carer and I haven't the inclination to explain it/knit your fog.

In my humble opinion the rule is welcome in so much as it might mean that we might be able to keep the likes of Zak from been 'attracted' away by an NRL club for more money. It offers the option of keeping a Hardaker, Hall, Cuthbertson who might otherwise decide that an extra £30-40k a year elsewhere is something they have to consider for their financial future security. Who knows it might also help stop some great league players moving to yawnion.

That's not what you said at all. What you said is below




I am guessing you posted before reading the rule properly.

The players that get the marquee player contacts are going to be under a different kind of pressure, every drop ball, missed tackle is going be scrutinized 10 fold. I can see some players not wanting that.

Agree with this.

But if it's here is there anything stopping us paying Hall as the marquee one year then Hardaker the next then Watkins the following year, this way you could have your 5 top players on 5 year contracts each having a year as the marquee player or maybe it's not allowed to work that way.

I don't think that's how it's going to work. We might not even know who the marquee players are. Or if say Hall, Watkins and Hardaker are all on £200k then only one of them will be assigned "marquee player" but it doesn't matter in the slightest which one.

Or if a Kiwi international, say, comes over on £250k/year and Watkins is on £200k/year it makes cap sense to call Watkins the marquee player even if he's being played less.

The only circumstance where "pressure" would come into play is if a player came in on a *huge* contract and at that Cronk/Thurston level you'd expect the sort of player who gets that kind of deal to be able to handle pressure otherwise they wouldn't be getting that sort of contract in the first place.

I certainly don't think GH voted on the rule to blow a chunk of money on one player.
He knows what he's doing.
I think he'll use the ruling to spread the salary cap more
The way I read it, if Rhinos are spending £1.8 million, and for example, 200K is going to Hall, GH can declare Hall as Marque player on 100K, and that allows the 100K difference to be shared out? Am I correct?

Cashcow on the other hand will blow 400K on one player, although lets wait and see if he was all hot air, or really does want to blow a big chunk of cash on a top player to play in the Middle 8's

I'm willing to step into the void if there is a problem.

Can I just say if koukash does get in a JT or a SBW or an Inglis. I'll go watch them

Would be interesting to see what it would do to crowd figures at certain clubs like Salford. If they got somebody like those guys and still were hovering around 5/6k it really would be a kick in the teeth to Koukash.

Personally I don't think we'll see much in the way of big names moving here under this rule for the 2016 season as I think most big names will surely have their futures for next season sorted already. How many big names are OOC come season end? Because whilst you can now pay them more, can you afford the transfer fee it would cost to sign them if they're still under contract. Looking until maybe 2017 for possibly the first few significant ones imo.

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Actually, just looking at the salaries some of the top guys apparently make in the NRL then I don't really see any coming in their prime, maybe the odd few when they've got a year or two left in them. If clubs want to throw big money around like a salary of £400k to one guy, he could easily do better/get more in the NRL if he's really a top player (plus the desire to play international and origin over there). Think you'd have to go north of £500k to get some over here and that would be daft, but could see Koukash doing that. For us it seems a tool to keep players rather than attract them. Problem is again, if other clubs still find genuine NRL quality too expensive then they'll come sniffing for the brightest SL talent.

I agree with this 100% Tad

I also think that this rule would also be a beneficial step forward for the international game as we in SL would certainly produce more players in our competition that were eligible to represent England/Great Britain as the percentage of home grown players rose as opposed to the ratio we have had to contend with in recent years

I think that GH has been pretty smart with his stance on the Marquee vote as he never stated that the Rhinos would actually go down that road despite voting the rule in

Gawwy has certainly dangled the carrot to any club (Salford} that believes that signing "One Special player" and one who will be on such a vastly inflated salary and will take a very high percentage of the allowed cap space across the clubs whole 25 man squad that it will enhance that clubs chances of being able to realistically have a chance of winning one of the major trophies on offer

IF the cap works as expected then its a case of how you like your toast buttering and Gawwy certainly likes to spread his thinly across the slice rather than put one dollop on one corner

That's basically how it works, and that's how we'll use it no doubt. If we signed someone from the NRL on a marquee player salary, the amount that counted against the salary cap would already be 25K more than the salary of any player in the Leeds squad.

Koukash however will go headline grabbing and get it all wrong again.

Can't see us using it to bring a big name in. Hope I am wrong as I think we need some fresh blood.

I don't think we will use it on an import, and there probably is some space needed for upgrades of existing contracts, but right now, we have the marquee option bringing one of our big earners cap hit down, we have two big names, who whilst they wont be at the peak of their earnings, wont be cheap in Peacock and Sinfield coming off along with Kylie. Burrow has signed a new contract and I would be astounded if he hasn't taken a significant pay cut.

I would be surprised if we didn't have a fair bit of cap space available. We might not see a huge name, but I think we might see one or two decent names coming in.

What decent names are you thinking of and what positions,halfback and prop?

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https://twitter.com/ukozleaguescoop/sta ... 9956283392 Australian papers reporting leeds' interest in Cronk. Wrongly informing the figures of the marquee player rule though. Even if GH is interested I can't see this happening. Unless, as there's no internationals for Aus this summer, Cronk has been told Australia national team need a shake up and it's time for Daley Cherry-Evens. He might be tempted by a longer contract in SL.

https://twitter.com/ukozleaguescoop/sta ... 9956283392 Australian papers reporting leeds' interest in Cronk. Wrongly informing the figures of the marquee player rule though. Even if GH is interested I can't see this happening. Unless, as there's no internationals for Aus this summer, Cronk has been told Australia national team need a shake up and it's time for Daley Cherry-Evens. He might be tempted by a longer contract in SL.

If we are after a half back James Maloney would fit the bill and is more realistic, he's off contract and not signed up. He is exactly the type of player the marquee rule will attract. On the fringes of Origin, not an international but a gun player.

Goal Kicker aswell

Indeed and a champion bloke with a wife, fits the Rhinos mould. He would be 29 at the start of next season so defo 3 good years in him maybe more.

He would be a coup for any super league club.

Totally agree with you. Interestingly a few days ago there was an interview in SMH with his manager who said he was considering 4 options, one of which was SL?

I agree but cannot see us signing either to be fair.

What happens to Sutcliffe if we sign a big name NRL halfback?