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| Quote ="The JokerĀ®"Rangi Chase was the best player on the pitch today, Danny McGuire had a good game for Leeds...'"
I would agree with that.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"It's an opinion that could have been shared without the attitude.'"
Bless.
Touchy aren't we.
Quote ="Tony Soprano"How dare you pick your Leeds MOM on a Leeds forum
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[u Translation:[/u I'm still sore over being proved wrong on the recruitment debate.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Ah. Put it down to inexperience.'"
In fairness I suspect he got a call, and other players should have known were to take the ball as well. I thought McGuire had the right idea taking it back to the middle, but when he kicked it I couldn't believe it.
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| neither could i,a stupid thing for an experienced player to do. a drive to the sticks and drop goal was what was needed. had cas not fouled up i suspect he may have had some questions from bluey after the game
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| Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Former Australian and NSW legend... Danny Buderus.'"
thought bedsy was cracking again!! his defence is nothing short of amazing!! the amount of pressure he put on the kickers when cas were looking for the 1 point near the end was blinding!! for mine he saved us at least 3 teams with his sheer effort!! his fitness is really coming and his grit is something to behold
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game'"
this has to be a joke right!! burrow and sinfileds kicking game has been pretty poor all season. mcguires cross field kick are as good as anyone in the game.
who put the kick through to win the game?
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"In fairness I suspect he got a call, and other players should have known were to take the ball as well. I thought McGuire had the right idea taking it back to the middle, but when he kicked it I couldn't believe it.'"
In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'" neither could I,I shouted at the tv no
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| Quote ="rooster_rhino"The majority of the Leeds team are thick. Constantly doing stupid things, i wish the coach would drill some common sense into them and get them to understand how to play to the conditions and ref, stupid errors, plays and penalties given away.'"
Are you a man?
Some of your ebay purchases are interesting if so. You freak!
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'"
Actually, I just watched the replay. I may have been generous to Buderus saying he got a call, because right behind him screaming, jumping up and down and pointing at the sticks was Ali. I can't believe he missed that.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Thank you - but that was last year - care to comment on tonights game?'"
Yes, I thought it was a great game, our boys played well, expected to get thrashed so to bring it back from 0-16 down and only lose at the death was a great effort.
You needed to beat us sometime on our patch
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Congratulations on winning your cup final
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Again what a complete tool
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'"
Unbelievable...I agree. In fairness to Leeds their defence was fantastic especially with just 15 men (I was even pleased with Ablett at enforced centre)....and the conditions made the game something of a lottery.
However, we still seem mainly clueless and/or reckless in attack.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"
You needed to beat us sometime on our patch
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Out of the last 10 games at your place it's 6-4 to Leeds.
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game'"
his kicking game ain't the best even when we're firing.
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'" We were 40 metres out with one tackle remaining, in the wet. it may not have been the most calculated decision, but there was no guarantee at all that we'd have managed a dropgoal from the position we were in.
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| Quote ="Matt23"We were 40 metres out with one tackle remaining, in the wet. it may not have been the most calculated decision, but there was no guarantee at all that we'd have managed a dropgoal from the position we were in.'"
Actually we were almost on the 20 and it was tackle 3 I believe. One drive up the middle against a still retreating Cas defensive line and then a drop from 25 out slap in front should have been a no brainer.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"neither could I,I shouted at the tv no
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Actually we were almost on the 20 and it was tackle 3 I believe. One drive up the middle against a still retreating Cas defensive line and then a drop from 25 out slap in front should have been a no brainer.'"
Correct. From the tap restart Smith took it up, tackle one. Webb, Lauitiiti, Senior and McGuire moved it to Hall, tackle two. Buderus to McGuire and the rest is history.
The textbook play from tackle two was to drive towards the posts on tackle three and then take the one pointer on tackle four, five or six whenever a clear opportunity arose.
What McGuire did was wrong, no wonder he was jumping around when Sinfield slotted the two.
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| Watched it again on the SLS. You're both right, the play was much dafter than I first thought. In fairness to McGuire he perhaps did not know how much time was left on the clock. What the hell was (the otherwise outstanding IMO) Buderus doing going blind at that stage? There was only McGuire out there.
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| Quote ="Matt23"Watched it again on the SLS. You're both right, the play was much dafter than I first thought. In fairness to McGuire he perhaps did not know how much time was left on the clock. What the hell was (the otherwise outstanding IMO) Buderus doing going blind at that stage? There was only McGuire out there.'"
You'll note I didn't pick you up on it.
When McGuire kicked forward the clock read 79:45, when Shenton picked it up the clock read 79:51, when the penalty was awarded and Leeds elected to take the two the clock stopped at 79:57.
Shenton should have taken a step back and let McGuire attempt to regather before tackling him. Leeds would have had one play the ball maximum to win the game. Nice to see Shenton winning games for Leeds without the need to actually have him on the books.
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| To be fair to McGuire, he wouldn't have been expecting to get the ball wide on the left, but he did.
Had he have driven it in, we'd have been well off centre, with little time left for a drive and a drop goal.
He did the right thing in getting more central, and probably knew there was only second left. Not enough time for 2 more tackles, and the act of getting central resulted in lost yards. Not sure we'd have got another tackle in in that time.
Textbook wise it was the wrong option, and I thought so at the time, but all that matters is that we got the 2 points from a tough game.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
Shenton should have taken a step back and let McGuire attempt to regather before tackling him. Leeds would have had one play the ball maximum to win the game. Nice to see Shenton winning games for Leeds without the need to actually have him on the books.'" Having thought about it..
A) There's no way McGuire would have had time to see how long was left. He would have had a rough idea at best.
B) Shenton should have left it, without doubt. McGuire was very unlikely to score from where the ball was positioned. However, had he tackled McGuire would he still be offside, if he was infront of Sherwin? Or does the fact McGuire's picked it up then put him onside? It's amazing how few of the rules of this game I actually know, despite playing it for a long time.
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| Quote ="Matt23"
B) Shenton should have left it, without doubt. McGuire was very unlikely to score from where the ball was positioned. However, had he tackled McGuire would he still be offside, if he was infront of Sherwin? Or does the fact McGuire's picked it up then put him onside? '"
Discussed [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=410311&start=30here[/urlearlier today.
Quote ="Matt23"It's amazing how few of the rules of this game I actually know, despite playing it for a long time.'"
I made a similar comment somewhere on here as well.
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