This thread is in danger of turning into the second coming of the McD-allah-god thread.

Everyone has their view on what it takes to be a captain and who that should be but the level of opposition to Mags is quite astounding. Even the title of this thread just seems so OTT.

I hope that those who are so openly opposing him have it thrown back at them by both Mags and the club as a whole during the season.

But regardless of how next season goes it would be nice to see fans supporting a player who has been absolutely integral to the success of the last decade if he does get the armband. I hope that happens.

This forum is full of posters that have very strong opinions and agenda's against certain players or even the coach of the club

some posters try to over power other posters with their strong beliefs in the hope that they will beat them into submission and concede the debate.

Most topics on this forum tend to end up with the same few posters trying to out score each other

Most debates often get sidetracked from their original point and get merged into much the same topic as every other one previously

I wonder how many registered users or even possible new posters refrain from coming on here due to all of the above ?

I personally find it all quite amusing reading how these prospective CEO's, Head Coaches and player mentors who with the benefit of hind site would have transformed our club to even greater success' this last decade

Get your CV's in ASAP

Agree McGuire deserves the support if things don't start too well. Regarding the point about him moaning a bit to refs and reacting a bit to other players, I reckon he is pretty placid and close to a Trappist monk when compared to some down the years, Murphy, Hepworth, Gregory, Edwards, Ricky Stuart, Andrew Johns and of late Briers and the current holder of the crown, danny brough.
Happy new year to all.

I think he is next years Captain he has been filling in for awhile so why give him experience at the role and then appoint someone else?I also think Danny comes across very well in interviews

This post is spot on.

When I first signed up I barely posted because whenever I did it felt like the same small group just slammed you. In the end I just thought 'sod them' but agree many will be discouraged which is a shame.

It's not so much the clash of opinions which is actually what forums are about but the way some move into personal attacks rather than sticking to the subject. But then I'm wandering of subject myself.

Mags for president

^ this.

TBF there has always been a divide on here, some pro, some negative. I mostly just read nowadays, though the same muckraking and petty point scoring has been going on for years, slowly choking away most posters.

It's exactly the same on the Wigan board... Some of the really negative posters just batter anybody positive into submission... Empty vessels, most noise.

So another thread bites the dust after descending into petty points scoring!

Monday morning Quarter backs

Bit rich from someone whose Twitter account is spent telling everybody which comedians/shows are/aren't entertaining whilst filling it with god awful jokes of his own in the mistaken believe you're funny.

13 days to think up a reply and thats what you came up with?

I think we can guess which side of the are/arent entertaining line the 'Chief Guardian of Acceptable Opinions and Cheerleader for the game in General' falls

Didn't see his post at the time but noticed it just now when looking at opinions about McGuire's captaincy given today's news.

What's really noticeable is that it took just over 20 minutes for you to jump on something I posted (not for the first time). You really do have an agenda/vendetta against me because I not only easily dismantled your "Super 8's are rubbish" thread on the VT but because your tiny mind couldn't cope with having an adult debate about a sensitive subject about affirmative action. Your knickers have been in a twist ever since.

I'll gladly have a debate with you when you have finally shown you can have a debate without wetting the bed in faux outrage......I suspect I'll be waiting a very long time though.

Frankly I'm flattered and ever so slightly aroused by your interest, but I'm afraid I'm spoken for.

See....that's more of that sh*t humour that you rate funny but really isn't.

But that was still the best you could come up with?

Im not sure you are coming off as the 'champion of the internet' you think you are If you are keeping lists of threads and stalking people on social media. It comes off a little try-hard. Like this isnt a bit of intellectual jousting and people really have gotten under your skin and embarrassed you.

Try a bit of whimsy, a bit of fun, your a bell3nd on a message board. You arent a member of the Swiss Guard, you just look as silly.

Who made you the humour guru?

No one, but how is it different to Gilder criticising people and banging on about "opinion police" on here yet telling people which comedians are funny or not on his Twitter whilst telling mulitiple sh*t jokes of his own?

Answer is it isn't so he shouldn't be banging on about opinions and being shot down as if he's any different or his sh*t smells like roses.

Yep remembering a thread that happened about three weeks ago is really "keeping a list".....and if Gilder didn't keep trying to make 'funny' (and I use that word loosely) comments on Rhinos players/Pete Smith's Twitter updates then I wouldn't notice them.

Like I said it took all of 20 mins for you to jump over a comment I made to someone else, so you're the last person to have a go at someone and claim people have gotten under my skin or are keeping track of things.



I look forward to the next little banter I have with someone that you jump into hysterically like a 10 year old girl simply because I'm involved and you're still annoyed from previous debates.

I trust GH and BM to do what's best for this team and club. All of the concerns raised by people on here won't have escaped those 2 and I'm sure they've spoken to Mags. He'll bring a different kind of leadership but that's not to say it's any way less effective than Kev's. And I'd be worried if we reliant on Mags being the only leader in the pitch. Granted we've lost 2 of the best leaders ever seen in our sport, but now there's an opportunity for others to step up. I can't wait for this season, I'm confident we'll win something and be in the mix and I'd love to see Mags lift some silverware. But if we have a bad year, my life will go on. It won't affect me half as much as the players and staff.

Just because I disagree with you acting in the capacity of Humour Guru, doesn't mean I agree with AG's comments about "opinion police", I don't.

I don't do ter, so can't comment on his input on that medium, but the thought occurs that if you find his input on there irritating, don't view it

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I just wish there was more rugby and good natured banter / humour on here and less censorious bitching, infighting and point scoring. I'm not singling you out as a chief culprit BTW, just clarifying my position.

Spot on D4mo

. Danny will grow into the role and didn't do too bad a job covering Kev last year.

it spoils the board and derails threads, apart from that its all good

Someone called Tony the Tiger or something tried to bitchslap me shortly after I joined. Then tvoc decided to have a go over nothing. They don't post so much any more.

Then Gotcha and I really got into it for a while.

Whatever. It's only an internet forum. Not real life, or anything.

im not taking sides and I don't get involved in these arguments and I skip reading them when I see them develop .Mostly they are knowlegable in there own way and can have their opinions and accept others have theirs.Over here they are calle Monday morning Quarterbacks