No I don't , meanwhile you Foxtrot Oscar

That’s quite a grandiose claim about your educational potential. I find your comments interesting on this forum, can’t say I’ve ever found them educational. Yours is an opinion, just like everyone else’s, and that’s what makes the forum an interesting place. If I wanted to be educated I’d go to a fact based website, but I already know how many trophies we’ve won, which players won those trophies etc, etc. As for understanding what’s going on at the club, you will never really understand, so it’s pointless chastising someone else when you are no better placed to do so. I’m sure Rohan Smith doesn’t fully understand why it’s gone wrong this season, he will have some aspects under his control, but doesn’t seem to grasp or understand the bigger picture. I look forward to more of your opinions.

Your assumption here is that Smith can’t grasp what you can grasp though?

At the end of the day, everyone who works for Leeds for their living and isn’t just an amateur player who never made it or another sort of speccie - they know more about the game and about the club than any of us.

I actually don’t agree that all opinions are equal by the way, but the curse of social media etc is that people just polarise and it feeds reactionary behaviour.

There is a lack of respect for expertise and experience these days - and respect for the fact that pretty much everyone, like you, is just trying to carry their own crosses.

This isn’t to give RS a free pass but some of the arguments against him on here are paper thin. Heard on the world famous podcast about how much JOC has developed over 2 years. Credit given to various players for that. Hm hmmm.

I said before the season started that the Smith situation would be assessed after 10-12 games.
It's interesting after 10 games.
The performances in the main have been very poor - and are a big cause for concern.
But the fact is that we have won 6 games and are 2 points off the leading pack.
We will probably lose the next 2, but then have 4 very winnable games.
Let's assess after those 6 games.
We could be in the mix, we could be in the bottom 4.

FWIW, there is no point sacking Smith mid-season, regardless of where we are.
But if we continue with the dour performances I think we should be looking to change at the end of the season.
The biggest thing that needs to change is the manner of the performances.
We look unstructured, disorganised, lacking leadership and just badly coached.
But we are low on confidence.
A few wins could turn that round.
Defeats will sharpen the knives.

Bring up the past ? You may care to reflect on last season which was a disaster, several posters on here questioned Smith’s ability. We were all shouted down. Told it was a transition period and everything would be ok this season. We have two upcoming games in which everyone is giving us no chance whatsoever. That’s a measure of how far we have sunk. Once again (sigh) I will praise praise Smith if he turns the situation around.
Whoever is the coach next season, would like Danny McGuirre to come in as the assistant coach.

My assumption is that Smith can’t grasp what some other managers grasp. Big difference. I assume you don’t rate Rob Oates or his work at Headingley because he never played the game , or does he get a free pass from you ? I don’t know if your “lack of respect for expertise and experience” is related to Leeds Rhinos, Rugby League or life in general. If it’s the latter , people are more than ever entitled to question people who rely on their supposed expertise and experience to earn a living. There are some dangerous people out there who trade on those two supposed attributes. As for carrying my own cross, I think you’ve been listening to too many JJB podcasts.

I dunno, I’m not seeing much questioning on here I am seeing a witch hunt from some.

It’s like, if I questioned you on how you did your job, without doing it myself and without knowing what I was talking about / and if I said you were **** at it would my opinion be worth as much as yours? Not all opinions are worth the same.

A lot of comments about how we shouldn`t sack RS mid season - this is the best time to sack him. He has failed in all areas , and teams are already looking at recruitment for next season.
Does anybody in their right mind want to let RS loose on next years recruitment ?

I do, if that means you don’t think I’m in my right mind I’ll wear it.

He has one more recruitment cycle for me. I like who he’s got rid of more than who he’s brought in so far, and clearly we need better signings than Frawley going forward. I’m hoping with AMT on board now, Croft is the first of several higher profile signings…

It's not about recruitment.
It's about playing style, an identity, moving forward.
On that he's failing miserably

It is partly about recruitment in my view. I don’t believe this current squad is good enough to top Super League. Do you?

Identity is a bit of a buzz word again, I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.

Playing style… I think there is a way we want to play, but we have lost the ruck too much this year and also made too many stupid errors. I’d like to see us more dominant in D; bringing us back round to players again, especially in the middle.

We are a prop short, ideally two needed. Both need to be guys who can offer what our current cant.
I cant see us being top 4 until that happens and we get some luck with being able to field our first choice outside backs for large chunks of the season.
Something that hasn't happened for a while.

However, this team is better than results suggest. They just can't seem to do anything well consistently and look poor in structure/ organisation etc.
Who is to blame and why it's happening is where people disagree

identity is a style of play that runs through the club. as you know but use an excuse jim. I like you but its all excuses. 2 years on we still look a disorganised mess. no structure no style of play. but he deserves longer? really?

As you say how long does he need before we get structure which is probably the most important factor.
Look at Willie Peters who has been for a shorter time at Hull KR and what he has done for them.
Anybody who has watched Frawley at the Giants or the NRL knows he was never the answer.
MOM looked decent in the NRL but has been average so far and needs alot of improvement.

even average players are OK with good structure and good coaching. all clubs have average players.

Agree that a good or coach will get the best out of average players. Look at Wayne Bennett at the Dolphins a team made up of largely cast offs from the NRL.
Regarding Frawley and MOM to a lesser extent I was trying to say his choice of recruitment has not been brilliant either.
Before anybody says it, yes we signed Croft and Akers but anybody who watches rugby would know they would be a vast improvement on existing players.

That's fair enough, but let's include McDonnell who's been good on the whole, and even Ruan, Roberts and Hudson are reasonable project signings (for what they are).

Mom is a good player, I think we'll see better from him later this year and he's very good for the winger outside him. He's disappointed me so far but you can see a player in there somewhere.

Frawley - I can see what they were thinking with him, but it's not working out so far. Sure he'll play other games this year but.. he was always a stop-gap until the youth came through I guess.

Olpherts was a signing made on stats not quality, and I think we've retained a couple of players we probably shouldn't too. We'll see.

The Momster will come good. It was a shame Lumb got injured so soon as it seemed they had the makings of a decent combination. I like Roberts but he doesn't seem to be a natural winger.

Roberts was training as a centre during the off-season. Fusitu'a's injury and the release of Olpherts, while maybe predictable, left Roberts as the last experienced outside back on the books. I don't think he's bad as a reserve. Its not his fault that he's ended up playing almost every week. It looks quite likely that he'll end up behind a few other players though, even without Fusitu'a. Lumb looks a better winger and McCormack and Simpson (touch wood) have more potential as centres. I'd be surprised if he's here much beyond this season.

A decent combination , they played one game together against a crap team

This got embarrassing a year ago.

Anyone other than the bottom 3 sides we see playing us as a guaranteed 2 points.

We are just awful and going backwards.
Doubt We will remove Smith before season end but that’s another year completely wasted.

Leeds look a really well drilled outfit where every player knows their role.

I wish it was true but they don’t have a clue what they are doing, the coaching is a disgrace.

Saints next week looks like it could be a bad one.

In pre season most agreed he should only be judged after 10-12 games, iirc I thought that was fair given the big squad changes.

Saints will be game 12.

This year feels like last year,so far. The same issues / problems in the same areas on the field. It's a big list,I won't bother writing it as we all know them ( though reasons why differ fir various posters).

Saints is a huge ask, honestly I'd be happy with a good performance even if we lost but I cant even see that.

John Wilkin really grinds my gears, but everything he said in last nights game broadcast was in the money and he summed up everything thats wrong with the team.