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| Does anyone else think that JP was cleared because both Zac and Carl would have also been on a ban for the Hudds game?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Does anyone else think that JP was cleared because both Zac and Carl would have also been on a ban for the Hudds game?'"
If you are a paranoid opposition fan, yes.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Does anyone else think that JP was cleared because both Zac and Carl would have also been on a ban for the Hudds game?'"
no its because hes a poster boy for the BBC, has a previous good record and is a bleedin legend!
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| Quote ="Alan"Hear, Hear. What happened was an isolated incident in a very tense game. Peacock was clearly provoked by Sarsfield's aggressive tackle, and the referee dealt with the incident well. I don't believe there was really any need to look for punishment beyond that meted out by Ben Thaler.'"
Yep. A bit of biff is what the sin bin is for. I wish the refs would use the sin bin more often rather than wait for the disciplinary to sort it.
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| Quote ="Him"Yep. A bit of biff is what the sin bin is for. I wish the refs would use the sin bin more often rather than wait for the disciplinary to sort it.'"
Don't be daft, next you will be exspect them to give a try without handing it to the video ref
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Don't be daft, next you will be exspect them to give a try without handing it to the video ref'"
I might be daft but I'm not stupid!
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| Worth listening to Brian McDermott's comments regarding the JP incident. He makes a strong point regarding the distinction between "thugs" and "bravehearts"
[urlhttp://www.therhinos.co.uk/matchdaytv/?play=media&id=18612[/url
He also makes another strong point that there are some in the media and elsewhere that are guilty of character assassination of Hardaker
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Worth listening to Brian McDermott's comments regarding the JP incident. He makes a strong point regarding the distinction between "thugs" and "bravehearts"
[urlhttp://www.therhinos.co.uk/matchdaytv/?play=media&id=18612[/url
He also makes another strong point that there are some in the media and elsewhere that are guilty of character assassination of Hardaker'"
I fully applaud McDermott this week, who I feel has handled the media very well, been clear with his points in an excellent manner, and supported his players in the right way through it.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Worth listening to Brian McDermott's comments regarding the JP incident. He makes a strong point regarding the distinction between "thugs" and "bravehearts"
[urlhttp://www.therhinos.co.uk/matchdaytv/?play=media&id=18612[/url
He also makes another strong point that there are some in the media and elsewhere that are guilty of character assassination of Hardaker'"
He also in the recent sky programme about the RL disciplinary stated there was no place for punching in rugby league- which made me laugh at the time I watched it.
All coaches spout bullpoop -It's all media spin- they say what they think people want to hear at the time. The only time they say what they really think......they get fined!
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| Quote ="jools"He also in the recent sky programme about the RL disciplinary stated there was no place for punching in rugby league- which made me laugh at the time I watched it.
All coaches spout bullpoop -It's all media spin- they say what they think people want to hear at the time. The only time they say what they really think......they get fined!'"
If you listen to his comments today on the Leeds website you will see he clearly is saying what he thinks and spells out the difference between the "thug" and the "braveheart" This IMO is not media spin.
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| Danny is quite right about Sarsfield's offence - it was deliberate, cowardly, cynical and designed to inflict physical harm - particularly since it was aimed at JP's head. It did not involve any game skills - and that is probably why JP lost it.
JP is after all a noble sportsman - something that the cowardly Sarsfield will never be.
Retaliation is such an ugly word, carrying with it connotations of the worst traits of mankind. But, without a certain measure of retaliation the rule of law would never have come into being and the bullies in life would have it all their way.
"Crime and punishment" is "sin and retaliation" in other words.
Perhaps a useful thought might be to substitute the words "counter-attack". This elevates the matter to a higher, nobler level and is after all the very basis of sport - attack and counter-attack (or attack and defence).
As time passes and we move into the George Orwell world of 1984, beaurocracy has become an immovable force.
"Politically Correct"? What on earth does that really mean?
It gives the power-hungry nobodies the power to tell ordinary people what they can or cannot do or say.
One thing is for sure - Sport and beaurocracy cannot co-exist.
Any more than natural and unnatural can.
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| Quote ="C O Jones"Danny is quite right about Sarsfield's offence - it was deliberate, cowardly, cynical and designed to inflict physical harm - particularly since it was aimed at JP's head. It did not involve any game skills - and that is probably why JP lost it.
JP is after all a noble sportsman - something that the cowardly Sarsfield will never be.
Retaliation is such an ugly word, carrying with it connotations of the worst traits of mankind. But, without a certain measure of retaliation the rule of law would never have come into being and the bullies in life would have it all their way.
"Crime and punishment" is "sin and retaliation" in other words.
Perhaps a useful thought might be to substitute the words "counter-attack". This elevates the matter to a higher, nobler level and is after all the very basis of sport - attack and counter-attack (or attack and defence).
As time passes and we move into the George Orwell world of 1984, beaurocracy has become an immovable force.
"Politically Correct"? What on earth does that really mean?
It gives the power-hungry nobodies the power to tell ordinary people what they can or cannot do or say.
One thing is for sure - Sport and beaurocracy cannot co-exist.
Any more than natural and unnatural can.'"
What he said
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| I wonder if the punches thrown in the Catalans vs saints game will lead to any appearances in front of the beak at Redhall?
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| I have just seen that both Pelissier & Walmsley have been charged for the incident I referred to above.
At last some consistency & to answer my own question, "yes they will be charged".
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| Quote ="Him"Yep. A bit of biff is what the sin bin is for. I wish the refs would use the sin bin more often rather than wait for the disciplinary to sort it.'"
That's what the sin bin was introduced for. To get two - or more - BDL's off the pitch after some fisticuffs to calm down before it got really nasty.
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| And Roby too,this could be very interesting.What chance Brian McDermot being employed as their mouthpiece.
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| So, explain why Matt Sarsfield received a 'sin binning sufficient' for the most hideous of cowardly crimes, and St Jamie threw about 15 punches, and would have been sent off if the REF had balls. Indeed the RFL recommended a 1 or 2 game ban, but then remembered he is a TV pundit, so just fined him.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"So, explain why Matt Sarsfield received a 'sin binning sufficient' for the most hideous of cowardly crimes, and St Jamie threw about 15 punches, and would have been sent off if the REF had balls. Indeed the RFL recommended a 1 or 2 game ban, but then remembered he is a TV pundit, so just fined him.'"
Too much stupid...
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| 15 punches? Really?
So the RL thought as he is on the Beeb they would let him off.
Really you think that's the reason?
How lucky is JP?
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| Quote ="chapylad"15 punches? Really?
So the RL thought as he is on the Beeb they would let him off.
Really you think that's the reason?
How lucky is JP?'"
It appears thinking is well beyond this particular poster.
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| Quote ="chapylad"15 punches? Really?
So the RL thought as he is on the Beeb they would let him off.
Really you think that's the reason?
How lucky is JP?'"
HE is quite lucky, in the Leigh v Halifax game, our Kurt Haggerty was SENT OFF when he threw a few punches in retaliation. I know you lot will be biased, but JP was lucky in just getting a sin bin & fine.
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| put the crackpipe down terry lad.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"HE is quite lucky, in the Leigh v Halifax game, our Kurt Haggerty was SENT OFF when he threw a few punches in retaliation. I know you lot will be biased, but JP was lucky in just getting a sin bin & fine.'"
...while Lee Briers gets absolutely zip for blind-siding Ablett with a sucker punch.
The refs and, more importantly, the RFL Disciplinary Panel have no consistency at all... NONE, this is why it is impossible to compare two different incidents from two different games, and why you shouldn't.
Haggerty throws punches - Red
Peacock throws punches - Yellow
Briers throws punches - nadda
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