How many MoMs has he had? One or two?

I wouldn't say best, I'd say most consistent. How much would you pay him to keep him, relative to other players in the squad?

I agree but if we are going to get better we need to keep our best players and replace the dross with even better players and of course improve the coaching at senior and junior levels which is shocking and has been for years

Think we just have to roll with it sometimes, even if we developed a cracking youth talent, they are always going to get tapped up by NRL and we've lost several fantastic players over there in the past even.

I'll repeat (!) we can't keep players too far past their market value. Sometimes someone else will value them higher than we can, and that doesn't mean the sky is falling down or that the club is rubbish. It sounds like Leeds have made a decent effort to retain Martin, but at this stage in his career you can't fault him for going to a higher bidder - especially as we've been floundering for years and the crowd can be fickle AF here.

martin, kicking aside, is solid,reliable and consistent. I wouldn't. describe him as top class. I'd love to keep him but time to move on

Taddlers this is twice we have agreed this year what is going on?

simple my old fruit. just agree with me and we'll go far

I’m so glad you didn’t say all the way.

“What would Tads do?” is my new life mantra.

trust me, that is the worst thing you could do

Parcel imo best Leeds hooker since buderis massive mistake letting him go tried Aton he left the rest all average.
Why are we letting our players go to places like HKR no disrespect but why?

we aren't letting him go.
he's out of contract and wants to go

Maybe Martin wants to go because he sees more potential to achieve success with a club that appears to have better direction of where it wants to go on the field

There's got to be an element of that hasn’t there? Funnily enough, if Arthur stays and Blease is ruthless and ambitious I think we can turn it around pretty quickly. Big "ifs" though.

"Such as HKR"...take your rose tinted glasses off

Well thats a performance to soften the blow, hopeless today

He’s an excellent kicker and usually very consistent, but he isn’t a game breaking player and he has very little impact at the line. He’s chunky and quite strong but he is part of our problem of a soft pack IMO.

I was ambivalent about him going or staying but now he has made a decision we need to take the opportunity with the cap and quota.

Not too bothered about anyone leaving tbh. We need complete rebuild imho….

Edited for accuracy

The forever rebuild.

Well untill it’s built, which can take years, it’s a rebuild!

Maybe he wants to leave because he wasn't happy about the way that R. Smith was forced out of the club by a handful of fans? Ultimately it is pure speculation unless the player comes out with a clear statement.

I could have said such as Wigan , St Helens or Warrington . Stop being so defensive , it should have been taken as a compliment .

Pity the fans could not force Smith out earlier

Not sure it was only a handful of Fans that forced Smith out and more the pity it did not happen sooner

Interesting timing to post this. RS forced himself out of the club by guiding the team to abject failure on the field, thank goodness he did leave and we now have a good coach for however long that may be. The players seem to be responding better to Arthur than they did smith so they're probably not too gutted