Have you seen Myler play with Sezer or Austin?

Nothings ever as ‘simple as that’

No and i dont want to either particularly with Austin. Ive also not seen Sutcliffe play with either of them and i hope i never do.

Ive seen enough of both of them playing in the halves to know that neither are the answer there and i will point out that i like both players. Myler has done a great job at full back. Sutcliffe does a good job in the centre and moving him about has hindered him.

We had real quality and options in the halves i expected us to make real improvements next year because of it. I like Sezer and Austin, real quality, but we now have nothing behind them which is a real shame and weakens our squad in my opinion.

But lets see what happens now. We may add to the squad yet. I hope so.

I agree mate.
Myler is an ex international half back, who has done an excellent job filling in at full back.
He's a capable back up to Sezer and Austin.
If we get an injury, it's not ideal, but hardly a crisis.
Last season was ridiculous in terms of HB injuries - can't be as bad as that next season.
Sezer and Austin can't be as busted or injury prone as Gale and Lui.

Sezer is coming off a bad injury last year. Myler sounds great but that means Walker being fit at full back, he has been injured for 18 months, let’s be honest he is likely to pick up some injuries. So let’s say Walker and Sezer are out one game, we end up with Myler and Austin in the halves and Broadbent at full back. It’s not awful but it’s worse than Myler going in at full back and Gale coming in the halves which we did have a week ago.

The other argument I have seen of what are we meant to do? Well he is under contract so we don’t let him leave for free to somebody who is going to be looking to challenge to be near the top of the table that’s what. He is out of contract next year anyway.

Just seems bonkers to let him leave unless he has really spat the dummy out, there isn’t anything concrete to suggest that has happened. I am sure he wasn’t happy about captaincy or Sezer and Austin but he is a competitive animal and I actually think he would have started with Austin from the bench. Also we must must bring somebody decent in and as has been said it realises a chunk of money but only 75k of actual cap money. Struggle to see a British prop we bring in with that kinda cap and not have to pay a large fee for.

Gale is coming off a bad injury himself, what’s his percentage of game time over the last 2 years?

When he was fit last year he got himself banned then dropped for spitting his dummy out, and these were at the worst times possible with our other injuries at the time

Lovely post

Gale was off contract at the end of 2022 anyway. No players need an upgrade for next season so this doesn't really benefit us.

Myler should never be play in the halves again. Dreadful idea that we have numerous examples of. Leeming should be first up if we need cover. With Johnson Dwyer covering 9

Agree. Leeming more than decent in the halves

I've heard on the rumour Mill of Louis McCarthy Scardbrook from Saints... Surely that can't be right. He'd be tied down to a big contract wouldn't he?

Hardly. I don't think too many Saints fans would be disappointed to see him go.

Leeming is fine at half back but that means Dwyer starting at hooker which we know is just bad, really bad.

We have Johnson at 9 as well.
He's got a few games under his belt at York and will have a full pre-season.
If Leeming has to go in the halves, Corey will be OK at 9.

Leeming did his best in the halves but he had a lot of poor games there too as well as some good ones. Please lets not think hes the answer if we lose a starting halfearly in the year.

If Gale wanted out or if Agar decided he wanted him gone or a combination of the 2 then fine let him go but the squad needs a 3rd half back if its to improve on last year in my opinion. Weve a decent pack, decent threequarter line we need the halves to get us around the park.

Weve gone from having best half back options in SL to not even having a proper back up and thats a concern in my opinion.

Myler, Sutcliffe and Leeming are all decent players but none are Leeds half backs in my opinion. Fine for 1 or 2 games but no more.

And they may only be needed for a few games, in which case were covered



Not many if any SL teams have an ex international halfback as cover in that position

Agree, but surely that was one of the key strengths of the squad. Now we are no better (depth wise) than anybody else. I do share Marty's concerns. We are at least another year from having a young half come through. Bottom line is Gale's departure has made us weaker, not stronger, and we can't pretend otherwise.

Hopefully they arent needed at all but if Sezer goes down in week 1 what the option? We have no back up.

Myler is best 1 at the club and needs to stay there, hes no half back. Austin has played on the wing internationally it doesnt make him a winger.

We need a 3rd half back in the squad.

Exactly.

There isn't a SL club that has three high quality halves - how are you going to get a half of the quality you want who isn't going to be guaranteed a starting place?

I cannot understand the obsession on here with props - it has always been the case since the days it was on rivals. If Leeds had 8 props there would be some on here asking for more.

We do have back up, Fuzzy and Walker can play Full Back Myler can fo into the halves.

You may not like thr option but to say we don’t have backup is wrong, we have s an ex international who has played 90% of his career at 7 as backup.

Im not saying Gale leaving doesn’t make the squad poorer what i am saying is it isn’t some kind of big disaster that will totally derail the season that you are making it out to be.

It has made us weaker, on paper, we don’t have a clue whats gone on!

If there was dissent within the ranks it could make us stronger as a team.

Thats your opinion Chris. I believe it will.

We was building a strong squad with depth and options. Now we are weaker unless we add to it.

Weve seen Myler isnt good in the halves many a time. Hes poor there but we may need to rely on him there. International half back my eye

Sutcliffe is no half back, we dont want him there either but didnt he get selected for England Knights? Another international half back no doubt

He was an international halfback wether you agree or not.

To say we have no backup is not opinion its flat out incorrect.

Wether you think that backup is good enough is your opinion, and of course you’re entitled to it, we’ll just have to wait and see who’s opinion turns out to be correct

Hopefully we wont find out cos i would like Myler at 1, Leeming at 9 and Sezer and Austin to play every week now.

We need to add another half to replace McLelland in the squad tho. Sezer and Austin are replacing Lui and Gale.

On the bright side, let's hope both Austin and Sezer steer clear of long term injury and young Johnson can force his way into the seventeen. Hopefully the new conditioning guru can get the key troops out on the park with far greater frequency than last year.