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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Hurrell has been dire this season.He has had only one good game against a very poor Cas side.Martin if he isnt retained may count himself unlucky but we have loads of back rowers.'"
Hurrell is still our best attacking option......
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| Hurrell is marmite isn't he - rocks and diamonds, hot and cold, all that. Some fans will love him for the good stuff, others hate him for the errors.
Going forward he's probably the most damaging runner through contact of any player in the competition. He's solid one-on-one in D too as long as he doesn't get too lateral.
Positioning, skills, not so great. To be brutal there is an argument to replace all three with one star quality prop and winger, so an upgrade on King if you like and a Donald-esque player meaning we could also let Luke Briscoe go, with thanks, and also put some pressure on Tom with his contract coming to an end next season.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Hurrell is still our best attacking option......'" One game in 5 he is.He's our worst defender every game and probably has the most errors.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Hurrell is marmite isn't he - rocks and diamonds, hot and cold, all that. Some fans will love him for the good stuff, others hate him for the errors.
Going forward he's probably the most damaging runner through contact of any player in the competition. He's solid one-on-one in D too as long as he doesn't get too lateral.
Positioning, skills, not so great. To be brutal there is an argument to replace all three with one star quality prop and winger, so an upgrade on King if you like and a Donald-esque player meaning we could also let Luke Briscoe go, with thanks, and also put some pressure on Tom with his contract coming to an end next season.'"
Toaty agree with your last paragraph.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Hurrell is still our best attacking option......'"
If our best attacking option is to just hope that Hurrell can smash his way through the defence all the time, then no wonder we’ve gone out and bought 2 new half backs!!!
He’s poor in defence and has too many errors.
And I don’t think he is the attacking threat he was when he first came.
Difficult choice to make between releasing Martin or Hurrell.
But we’re pretty well stocked in both centre and back row, so could easily be either one.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"If our best attacking option is to just hope that Hurrell can smash his way through the defence all the time, then no wonder we’ve gone out and bought 2 new half backs!!!
He’s poor in defence and has too many errors.
And I don’t think he is the attacking threat he was when he first came.
Difficult choice to make between releasing Martin or Hurrell.
But we’re pretty well stocked in both centre and back row, so could easily be either one.'"
Hurrell would still walk into any other team in SL
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| Quote ="christopher"True but he maybe doesn't need to be replaced with an OS player'"
That’s my thinking re King
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| Quote ="Shabino"Hurrell would still walk into any other team in SL'"
Hurrell gets lots of stick, and sometimes not without reason. But in his defense, I'd say he he is now fitter than he has ever looked whilst at the club and doesn't drop nearly as much ball as in the early days. He is also playing down our right hand side, when all our key attacking links play down the left. If he had been playing on the left this year he'd got ten tries, no bother at all. It's sad that in the three years he has been at the club we have yet to devise a plan to get the best out of him. Maybe Sezer/Austin would make a difference to that. Agnostic on whether he stays or goes, but I don't think he is the no hoper some make him out to be.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Hurrell would still walk into any other team in SL'" Not so sure about that
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Not so sure about that'"
He probably would.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"He probably would.'" By name only not on form
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| Hurrell has had a dreadful season. Truly dreadful. I was hoping to see a Broadbent and Newman playing centre this year, but unfortunately Jack got injured
Broadbent and Newman is certainly our starting centre combo going forward.
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| Quote ="Bang"Hurrell has had a dreadful season. Truly dreadful. I was hoping to see a Broadbent and Newman playing centre this year, but unfortunately Jack got injured
Broadbent and Newman is certainly our starting centre combo going forward.'"
Newman is a great player, but has made loads of errors since he’s been back. Does he kop the same stick as Hurrell?
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| In defence of Hurrell he's had no decent ball from the halves. Sezer will massively help with that. For most of this season we've had no half backs.. but he's also been very very ordinary, mainly in defence.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Newman is a great player, but has made loads of errors since he’s been back. Does he kop the same stick as Hurrell?'"
No because he's been out injured for such a long time and he's much much much less experienced. He was quality v Wire too.
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| Think we all need to remember until recently we’ve had very poor go forward. Hurrell has stuck his hand up and played more like a prop most games. Then he gets tired, then the errors come.
If we can work to his strengths bit more, he’s a force of nature
And other teams are very aware of this.
Just listen to what Sneyd said recently, and that comes from a guy who plays alongside some absolute monsters.....
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| Hurrell is consistently in our top metres makers per game, and we do tend to use him as a one-out battering ram rather than trying to get him into space running lines etc.
Personally I would seek to retain him another season or two but on the right money. We have boxed ourselves into a corner a little with the Austin signing, unless we can negotiate an early release for Thompson. Hurrell is such a difficult one - on the one hand he strikes the fear of god into defenders when he runs at them and takes some effort to bring down. On the other hand he regularly does something which releases pressure on the opposition, and I'm a big fan of Leeds becoming a pressure-applying side again.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Think we all need to remember until recently we’ve had very poor go forward. Hurrell has stuck his hand up and played more like a prop most games. Then he gets tired, then the errors come.
If we can work to his strengths bit more, he’s a force of nature
And other teams are very aware of this.
Just listen to what Sneyd said recently, and that comes from a guy who plays alongside some absolute monsters.....'" He has put his hand up but he has been poor. Everytime he takes the ball up Im waiting for the mistake. His ball retention is awful
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| Hurrell should get better with better halves around him.
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| I think we have lost patience with Hurrell's defensive lapses and I don't think he will be offered a new deal.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"He has put his hand up but he has been poor. Everytime he takes the ball up Im waiting for the mistake. His ball retention is awful'"
The frequency with which he drops the ball is directly proportionate to the number of defenders (often 3 or 4) in the tackle trying to dislodge it. How do you think Newman, Sutcliffe or Broadbent would cope with that kind of attention? The worry is his lack of mobility in defence, which won't improve at this late stage. You either live with it or you don't. Interesting decision.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"He has put his hand up but he has been poor. Everytime he takes the ball up Im waiting for the mistake. His ball retention is awful'"
You could also use the same argument with Tom Briscoe.Didn't Harry Newman come up with a bad error late on too.Hurrell's having a loss of form at the moment on the back of covid and injuries.I would rather have Konni in the big matches where he has performed.My point is I would have cut him some slack as I would Newman and Briscoe.What has Austin got in his armoury,a side step that most teams in SL have worked out,and the ability to put up high bombs.
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| Hurrell is done his errors with the ball dumb penalties & poor defence are not worth retaining on any deal.
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| The more attacking options we develop, the less important hurrell becomes. But he managed to be a genuine threat when we got the ball wide quickly
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| Quote ="Dwayne Dibley"You could also use the same argument with Tom Briscoe.Didn't Harry Newman come up with a bad error late on too.Hurrell's having a loss of form at the moment on the back of covid and injuries.I would rather have Konni in the big matches where he has performed.My point is I would have cut him some slack as I would Newman and Briscoe.What has Austin got in his armoury,a side step that most teams in SL have worked out,and the ability to put up high bombs.'" Loss of form he hasnt struck form for two games on the trot.I can only think of the Cas game where they were dire where he has played well.
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