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| I agree with Gotcha. They will be let in on the basis of the other clubs will receive more money.
The problem for Toronto will be the home and away fixtures. There is no way they will be allowed to play a batch of fixtures at home as it will give them a major advantage.
They will spend heavily if and when they make Super League. There will be some superstars heading to Canada from the NRL I suspect but only time will tell
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| To buy let them in would be ridiculous. By far the most positive thing to happen in RL in recent memory
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"I agree with Gotcha. They will be let in on the basis of the other clubs will receive more money.
The problem for Toronto will be the home and away fixtures. There is no way they will be allowed to play a batch of fixtures at home as it will give them a major advantage.
They will spend heavily if and when they make Super League. There will be some superstars heading to Canada from the NRL I suspect but only time will tell'"
Id love to know how the're gonna pay for these "superstars" mate they haven't paid for the squad they have now yet hence clubs taking action and a delay in their admittance to SL.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Id love to know how the're gonna pay for these "superstars" mate they haven't paid for the squad they have now yet hence clubs taking action and a delay in their admittance to SL.'"
Nonsense, their players wouldn’t be playing if they weren’t been paid.
Something I don’t think has been considered, if Toronto don’t get any Sky money, Sky will have no right to show their games, would sky be happy with this?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Nonsense, their players wouldn’t be playing if they weren’t been paid.
Something I don’t think has been considered, if Toronto don’t get any Sky money, Sky will have no right to show their games, would sky be happy with this?'"
Sky don’t pay the clubs. Sky pay the central pot, from which clubs are paid. The agreement would be they can’t take any money from that central pot, no argument with Sky.
And you misunderstood what rhinomark said. He didn’t say the players, he said the clubs where those players were signed from.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Nonsense, their players wouldn’t be playing if they weren’t been paid.
Something I don’t think has been considered, if Toronto don’t get any Sky money, Sky will have no right to show their games, would sky be happy with this?'"
What Gotcha said!
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| Which clubs do Toronto owe money to and fir which players?
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Which clubs do Toronto owe money to and fir which players?'"
Think they still owe for O’Brian don’t they? Think there is another couple, Leigh?
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Which clubs do Toronto owe money to and fir which players?'"
I expect none otherwise they wouldn’t be allowed to play for the Wolfpack
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I expect none otherwise they wouldn’t be allowed to play for the Wolfpack'"
Expect away if you look for the news and reasons for the delay in confirmong their spot in SL you'll see it.
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| First expectation, James Webster to join coaching staff.
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| Quote ="Frosties."First expectation, James Webster to join coaching staff.'"
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| Where are they going to play - fixtures start in Feb - not sure you will be able to play in Toronto before Easter. This would be completely unacceptable to all the other clubs
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| Who cares about block fixtures? Playing in Canada before April would be ridiculous.
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| Toronto full of average sl/championship players.
another celtic crusaders
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Who cares about block fixtures? Playing in Canada before April would be ridiculous.'"
It would and as such it isn't a level playing field - they will need to find a resolution.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Where are they going to play - fixtures start in Feb - not sure you will be able to play in Toronto before Easter. This would be completely unacceptable to all the other clubs'"
Toronto have been playing in our leagues for 3 years and playing in blocks has been fine. In Feb and March they are going to need to play away from home, as we did in 2018.
Quote ="tad rhino"Toronto full of average sl/championship players.
another celtic crusaders'"
Did Celtic Crusaders regularly get 8000-9000 home fans in the Championship?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"It would and as such it isn't a level playing field - they will need to find a resolution.'"
How isn’t it a level playing field? They still play the same number of home and away games.
Playing some teams 3 times and some teams 2 times isn’t a level playing field, playing a block of games home or away, as we did in 2018 makes no difference whatsoever
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| Regardless, it'll need a two thirds majority to be passed. And there are turkeys who won't be easily induced to vote for Christmas.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Regardless, it'll need a two thirds majority to be passed. And there are turkeys who won't be easily induced to vote for Christmas.'"
This is exactly what I think. Without the full conditions being shown and proven that it can sustain it within this week, I’m not sure the SL clubs will vote for it. Especially considering they are saying that they must fly the teams over business class, have them stay in four star hotels and all expenses paid by Toronto. They currently don’t do any of that, they fly teams over and put them up in hotels but not what is expected of SL clubs.
Today’s news of Thomas Cook probably won’t help the matter for fans getting trips to Toronto (although I’m not sure that’ll be taken into consideration by the board)
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| Business class and four star hotels to be paid for by the opposition? Utter nonsense. All Toronto should have to pay for is economy and basic accommodation. This is SL not the premier league. Do cats have to do that?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Business class and four star hotels to be paid for by the opposition? Utter nonsense. All Toronto should have to pay for is economy and basic accommodation. This is SL not the premier league. Do cats have to do that?'"
Well they can make Ricky Leutele the richest centre in Rugby League so they should be able to afford it.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"How isn’t it a level playing field? They still play the same number of home and away games.
Playing some teams 3 times and some teams 2 times isn’t a level playing field, playing a block of games home or away, as we did in 2018 makes no difference whatsoever'"
There is a world of difference between us playing block fixtures and Toronto playing block fixtures. It would give them a massive advantage if they dont have to travel for 4 or 5 weeks playing against teams travelling a couple of days before the game.
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| Quote ="Frosties."This is exactly what I think. Without the full conditions being shown and proven that it can sustain it within this week, I’m not sure the SL clubs will vote for it. Especially considering they are saying that they must fly the teams over business class, have them stay in four star hotels and all expenses paid by Toronto. They currently don’t do any of that, they fly teams over and put them up in hotels but not what is expected of SL clubs.
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What utter nonsense, Super League clubs should be responsible for their own travel and accommodation. In all of the NRL, Super Rugby, Pro 12, NFL, NHL, NBA teams have to fly significant distances to play games. Does the home team cover the travel costs? No that would be ridiculous, the away side is responsible for their own travel.
It’s typical of our sports small time thinking that the thing holding back the expansion of the game is an annual 6 hour flight. Toronto just got over 9000 at their play off game a few days after Warrington only got 5000 and tinpot chairmen are looking at reasons to block them worrying about paying for 1 away game in Canada per year.
David Argyle has invested over £10M in Toronto Wolfpack so far, but he’s been treated as some unwanted foreign invader, the Super League meetings must sound like the UKIP party conference and will certainly put off any other people considering investing serious money in the expansion of our game as David Argyle has.
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| Agree with above. It shows how truly tin pot our sport is if a pro sports team can't afford to fly and put up for a couple of nights in canada for one game a season
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