No chance Sutcliffe or Ward will be back?

Gutted for Ash Golding, he’s a good player. Myler continues to shine, I wish McGuire had stuck around and been a half back partner for a season - they would have been amazing

From 1-17 a tremendous effort imo & i thought all the bench contributed to a fantastic Team win.
I also think that could be a defining night for Cam Smith he put himself about & didn't look out of place which included a superb Try saving tackle late on.
Also Gotcha re-Handley & Ablett they were'nt as bad as you say imo we restricted ST's to 20pts which in itself was a huge effort imo.

Tremendous result given the injury list and all the team stood up to the task.

Parcell played a crucial role in the second half with Moon equally influential throughout the game and who has developed into a very effective 6 using his combination of running ability, passing and kicking to great effect. His combination with the impressive Myler can only get better.

However the victory came as a result of a dogged and persistent defence which ground St Helens down and great credit has to go to JJB, Delaney and Singleton very well backed up by Ablett and Mullally. The character and never say die attitude of the side is their great credit and that of the coach who prepared and managed the side so well.

Cam Smith and Oledzki looked ok too

Well i never saw that coming and put my 37-10 to Saints right out of the window.
I still thought we would lose even at half time which shows what i know.
A real gritty performance from 1 to 17 with some off the cuff plays to get us the win.
Feel for Golding if he is going to miss out for a few weeks but Walker is as good a replacement as you could wish for.
Whilst Walker is good I don't get this downer some folks on here have on Golding who imo has not put a foot wrong.
Watkins will be a huge miss next Friday. Was he concussed?

I agree with you regarding Golding who has earned the No 1 shirt.

There is nothing wrong with Golding, he is just not as good as Walker, simple as, exactly why Walker wanted the chance to fight it out for the spot. Golding would walk into most other sides at fullback, he is an able deputy here who won the shirt after Walkers injury with his own performances, and now for Walker to keep it by performance.

I watched the game (Wakey fan) and thought JJB put a right shift in last night. Lead by example.

Been a long time since I enjoyed a league game as much. Superb effort and great atmosphere at game.

Thought Singo and Mullalley was outstanding and have to disagree with Gotcha I thought Ablett was sensational last night. Made the hard yards time and time again bringing away from own line and worked his proverbials off. That back row is the base of the team. Non stop grit, effort and determination. I can't knock them ever.

I agree with people regarding Golding he never let's Leeds down is very reliable but Walker is different gravy for me. The kid is all class.

I would praise Luke Thompson of Saints. That lad had come on leaps and bounds last 18 months like Singo for us.

Got to praise McD for way he's brought Singo never rushed him while he was young and developing physically and mentally. Prop is a hard position. Let's hope he brings likes of Mikolaj and Holroyd on in similar ways. Stuart Fielden was rushed too early and his career was over too early.

Actually Mark, just seen stats and they were worse than I said. I knew they had missed a fair few crucial tackles, hence the comment, but didn’t appreciate how bad. Handley missed more tackles than he made, and I am sorry but in anyone’s book that is really poor. Ablett missed a further five tackles.

I did say despite the good, as I wasn’t Ignoring the good bits, but just pointing out their defence left a lot to be desired with the poor misses.

Quite right. 46 tackles and 12 carries. He does it most weeks and is a key part of the Leeds side.

I think only Clarke is averaging more tackles per game than JJB who has made 47.4 tackles per game after 5.

Sorry Gotcha I agree with you on lots of things but I can't on Ablett last night. If you look at Barba's 2nd try Ablett had chased back 50 yards to make a desperate tackle on Barba missed tackle stats don't show that amount of effort it just shows missed tackle 1. That was after 70 mins of non stop grit, toughness, getting back to carry ball in on your own line, getting under oppositions skin and getting into referees ear also.

Stats might show a few missed tackles but it doesn't show the running blood to water to get in a position to make a tackle in 1st place.

Ablett for me was superb last night as he was at Warrington on the opening night. It was a great effort by all. Pride in the Leeds shirt in abundance so why pick up on a few negatives?

A special mention for:

Child: "I called surrender and you played the ball too quick"

Ablett: "I played the ball too quick?!?"

Exactly - if your job depended on it who would you select?

IMO Golding is a very good player but Walker is an exceptional player

I think you have misunderstood my post here Marty. I wasn’t ignoring the good things, I agree with you, I did start my post by saying “despite the good things”. I was just referring to the crucial missed tackles that left a lot to be desired, and they were poor misses.

I did group him with Handley, which might have been unfair, because Handleys misses were really bad last night, and to miss more than you make is not a good stat in the slightest.

He pulled us up twice at the PTB (Mullally also) for things that players usually get away with 20 times a game. Disagree with some that we got everything from Child - aside from the odd aberration I thought he got most things right.

I like Golding and he looks a model professional with great attitude. He is a great replacement and i'd be happy to play him centre, winger, full back as and when necessary, however Walker is far better in both attack and defence. Golding should only get in at full back when Walker is injured or not playing well which is far from the case at the moment. We are just blessed to have one of the most exciting backs I have seen for a long long time.

In regards to Peteru, he has been down under. Is he going to do a Galloway also?

The resilience of the club is still there which is the most pleasing aspect. They just grind it out. Had a sneaky feeling Handley might pop up with the try.

Though briscoe had another good game was interesting to see hall with kicks.

Thought walker went well unlucky for Golding but I just think walker has more in attack although the battle should bring both of them on. Also at their age playing 20 games a season each is ok.


All things considered its been a positive start to the season. Hopefully we start to get a few bodies back soon

Would like to see some clarification on the scrums. Richardson needed telling three times to put it in correctly. Why is that not a penalty?

Walters did a good job last night. I feel some who have scapegoated him should eat humble pie.

How about giving Golding a wing spot in place of Briscoe. The competition for places could bring the best out of Briscoe even if Golding doesn’t keep the spot.

Strange decision indeed, after some decent games child seems to have slipped back to his old ways. Only consolation from last night was child was equally incompetent for both teams. Although saints seemed to think they were unjustly treated. I sometimes get the impression with child that if over several minutes no infringement has occurred. He feels obliged to justify his existence by looking for some minor infringement to award a penalty.
This present rhinos team have developed a mental toughness and resilience. Both at Warrington and saints our defence was outstanding.

For me Briscoe's earned the spot so far this year and his confidence looks high, and doesn't deserve to miss out just to generate competition.

It was a correct decision, albeit a nit-picking one. Ablett hadn't fully regained his feet when he played the ball. Child's explanation to Ablett left a lot to be desired, granted

Thought Walker was a bit rocks and diamonds last night, he needs to make that tackle on Grace and made a few errors in goal, but tbf it was his first game in a month.

Point is, he needs to up his game next week if he wants to secure the 1 shirt.