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| Quote ="FGB"Some not very complimentary comments from certain players on social media, who seem to think JW has been 'thrown under the bus' and 'hung out to dry' by Leeds'"
It does seem an unusual way for our club to have handled it. GH normally likes to keep things in house.
He must have [ireally[/i cheesed them off.
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| Quote ="FGB"Sam Hallas (recently released by Leeds
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Zak Hardaker - tho more in support of Walker than anything else'"
Hallas feeling bitter
Moore total grub
Hardaker thick
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
GH is doing his job, if walker left with no explanation there would be plenty on here who would blame him and the club for not paying enough.
Is it correct that he is off contract at the end of the year? If so then I dont see this as considering his options and more him saying he wants to leave.
To demand what position you will play is ridiculous, especially given the majority of players in SL and NRL play a different position than they did at 17, if GH accepted these terms he would be totally undermining the coaching staff.
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| The only loser here is Leeds Rhinos. To allow your best talent to leave is mind blowingly bonkers.
No serious employer ever loses an really talented employee - to allow them to leave to a competitor is very poor business.
If the offer is what I have been told - I have no idea if it correct - was true then its an insult. Especially when you have already set a precident with offer made to Cameron Smith. Walker is on a different planet to Smith.
I appreciate the club want to dictate to these what they must do - but if that is your attitude don't cry foul if a young kid calls your bluff.
This whole episode shows how far backwards the club has gone and why allowing the culture McDermott wants the club to adopt will end in tears. Bullying is a terrible human emotion - shame the club and supporters value this so highly
Sinfield left has nothing to do with the club, Peacock left has nothing to do with the club, McGuire is leaving to have nothing to do with the club. How can that be a positive?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
You're so hypocritical it's laughable.
You complain about the club making this public, mate nobody has done more for the last few months than you to leak the exact details of the meetings between the club and player on here to the point that people already knew the stuff that was mentioned today.
And the lad has had plenty of time now seriously to consider his options. Like they said the club has to move forward and they need to put a line under this and move on and aren't people on here always saying the club should be open and tell them what's going on?
Aren't the club allowed to put their side of the story across or do they just have to let internet posters throw them under the bus with stories and rumours that slag them off?
If Warrington weren't in the middle 8'd would he still be considering his options.
No one player is bigger than the club.
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| One more thing about throwing under the bus and being unfair on players.
The person I feel sorry for here is Ash Golding. He's done absolutely nothing wrong, he's come in had a decent debut year as a starting FB (after biding his time for a year or two and playing wing btw), he's a good professional, got himself a good deal and he's getting loads of abuse for "being in Walker's way" which he actually isn't if Walker was prepared to fight for the shirt.
People what if Walker is reading these comments....what if Golding is or doesn't it matter because people have a newer shinier toy they want to play with?
That's the worst stick anybody is getting out of this, a lad who whilst has struggled in attack has worked his balls off for the team this year.
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| yet this forum has been full of goldings rubbish in attack get walker in.
now it's f**k walker we have golding .
some real hypocritical comments lately
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| For me the talks were protracting far too long and I can understand the club's position..they needed to know who will be in the squad for next season as then they can determine who needs to be recruited.
Having read the article a number of times seems abundantly clear he wants the FB position but only have to look at recent history . BJB left because he wanted FB position was promised it by Salford..only played a couple of times in that position...left for Wakey were was told yes you can be FB..not sure who changed his mind but now settled ..he doing well as try stats show...So Walker would do well to note that.
As other said Burrow was proud to play for THE TEAM...for the club he loved..that is the Rhinos ethos...Other thing is Walker has not ruled out playing for club..it states he keeping option open.. That though not good enough..your heart must be for the club...you cannot have doubt...neither do I want Leeds to be second best. He has exceptional talent but he is not bigger than the club. Cut the ties early he won't be missed..we have other prospects coming through.
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| Quote ="FGB"Some not very complimentary comments from certain players on social media, who seem to think JW has been 'thrown under the bus' and 'hung out to dry' by Leeds'"
Let me guess! Hardaker (who acts like a teen on twitter) and others with the same agent?
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| It seems from the club's reaction that the kid has made the right decision to leave
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
I can't believe how naive you are. This is how GH has always operated. He is nothing but consistent.
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| Dont see how the club have a choice but to move on....A player gets paid to play for the club to give the team the best chance to win in any given game,not to play one specifide position. Even if he's not demanding to be first choice,if he only wants to be considered for fullback then what happens if all our halves are injured or banned this time next year and we'v got a cup semi coming up,do we beg him to play in the halves and if he refuses we just have to accept it?......I think he's a fantastic player/talent and a much better fullback than golding and would love to keep him but not with that condition.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I can't believe how naive you are. This is how GH has always operated. He is nothing but consistent.'"
Really? Remind us how many seventeen year olds he has announced to the press have turned down deals with us? Never happened as it. Reason for that is because it is unprofessional.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Let me guess! Hardaker (who acts like a teen on twitter) and others with the same agent?'"
Interestingly hypocritical given your earlier contributions to this thread.
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| The biggest shock in this thread is seeing Gotcha and Sal slagging the club off.
Never thought i'd see the day.
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| Quote ="Seth"Interestingly hypocritical given your earlier contributions to this thread.'"
How so?
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| Hetherington has put the press release out to show fans it was Walkers decision when another club announces him. A master stroke. Let's just think about it for a minute. A 17 year old who has played 6 professional games wants guarantees that he will be the first choice full back for Leeds Rhinos. Who does he think he is? Get rid.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"How so?'"
Comments of 'f#$k him', and that he'll be a hate figure, unless i missed the point that you opposed those sentiments.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Really? Remind us how many seventeen year olds he has announced to the press have turned down deals with us? Never happened as it. Reason for that is because it is unprofessional.'"
Ive read this kind of position from the club before, I'm racking my brain to think who?
But this is very GH. Some of us support the guy so don't.
But your reaction seems like you expected something different? From the position you promote on the forum I would think you would expect it. I'm not shocked or surprised by GH's press release.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"yet this forum has been full of goldings rubbish in attack get walker in.
now it's f**k walker we have golding .
some real hypocritical comments lately'"
None more so than the poster above you. Like I said, if you are happy for a player to leave that is opinion, and opinion anyone is entitled to. But the clubs handling is so unprofessional, and that is not debatable. The offer made to Jack in last week is three times the original offer made. Yet again highlights how unprofessional we have been, why not make that at the start?
To answer printer on considering his options. I have said this for weeks, he can not have other clubs put offers to him personally until August. Leeds know that, the player knows that, his agent knows that. But clubs can put offers to his agent, just nothing can move until August, and hence Leeds trying to do a deal before.
Stupid thing is, if anybody on here and I mean anybody, was asked who do you think the best fullback at the club is right now, we all know the answer. So all the club had to do was simply say to the player the shirt is yours to lose, but if you don't perform you lose it. Simple and quite easy to handle, job done, and another signed up. Unless they have plans to bring in a new fullback.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
The club needs to have a long hard look internally at itself. Jack Walker has not demanded he be starting full back and not demanded the number 1 shirt as is being said.
He is saying that he believes his best position is full back and is asking to be developed as a full back. Asking for individual full back skills training.
My God if i was a coach or CEO and a talented 17 yr old asked me that i would be thrilled at that prospect of challenging and helping the kid to become the best he can be. He is clearly ambititious, driven and focussed on his career
This lad is a Leeds lad, a super talented x factor type player and its a very sad day that he feels his development best served elsewhere.
Leeds need to be asking why he feels that way. Why other clubs have made him feel more welcome than we have.
I have nothing but respect for Walker, ive watched him come thru academy and ive seen the talent on show. Leeds announcement today was poor, callous and petulant as it was when Segeyaro wanted out and it shows the club in a bad light. Hope Leeds ask why this has happened. The answer doesnt lie at the players door.
We are coming into a time where the talented kids we have and theres a few will have to make decisions on there future and the club cant allow things like today and with Morgan Smith to keep on happening.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Ive read this kind of position from the club before, I'm racking my brain to think who?
But this is very GH. Some of us support the guy so don't.
But your reaction seems like you expected something different? From the position you promote on the forum I would think you would expect it. I'm not shocked or surprised by GH's press release.'"
I thought he had much more about him than that, and have always held him much higher. An established player, yes I could understand, but bullying a young kid is not Hetheringtons normal tactic at all.
The bit about the family in the statement too, how low. They know the issue there, yet make it sound something different.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"The club needs to have a long hard look internally at itself. Jack Walker has not demanded he be starting full back and not demanded the number 1 shirt as is being said.
He is saying that he believes his best position is full back and is asking to be developed as a full back. Asking for individual full back skills training.
My God if i was a coach or CEO and a talented 17 yr old asked me that i would be thrilled at that prospect of challenging and helping the kid to become the best he can be. He is clearly ambititious, driven and focussed on his career
This lad is a Leeds lad, a super talented x factor type player and its a very sad day that he feels his development best served elsewhere.
Leeds need to be asking why he feels that way. Why other clubs have made him feel more welcome than we have.
I have nothing but respect for Walker, ive watched him come thru academy and ive seen the talent on show. Leeds announcement today was poor, callous and petulant as it was when Segeyaro wanted out and it shows the club in a bad light. Hope Leeds ask why this has happened. The answer doesnt lie at the players door.
We are coming into a time where the talented kids we have and theres a few will have to make decisions on there future and the club cant allow things like today and with Morgan Smith to keep on happening.'"
spot on.
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| Quote ="Seth"Comments of 'f#$k him', and that he'll be a hate figure, unless i missed the point that you opposed those sentiments.'"
First point, I think if a 17 year old kid with 6 games under his belt doesn't want to be at the club then he shouldn't be given a start regardless of talent.
Second point, I'm not gonna hate on a young kid who is the same ages as my oldest child. He is a bloody child, with pi$$ poor and naive people around him, that is obvious. He will cop it from Leeds fans that is a given. The better he is the more $hit he will cop.
That's what I said.
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