Do you ever stop arguing like a petulant child? No matter how many times people continuously prove you wrong, you still argue, having to get the last word.

Eaton was gone. I don't know if you don't realise but Plume is academy, and was already working with another 25 academy lads. Davidson was looking after the first team. Why do you want to highlight your lack of knowledge all the time? Just let things go when you do not know.

The point on the coaching was too much time in the gym. Which is exactly what Davidson and Kirke forte is.

I am sure the coach doesn't like you either.



If you have employed specialist conditioners you leave them to get on with it.

Plume is both first team and academy. Don't have the mistaken believe that just because you have looser lips than others that you know more, some of us just don't run and tell each and everything they know.

As for "proven wrong"....how? Because you say otherwise? The great insider who brought us Daryl Clark needs Westernan to give him a lift

.... and Burgess

You just don't know mate, very little is your extent.

Show me a post that has ever said Daryl Clark needs Westerman. You will actually see what I said ended up happening, and is happening. There is a reason for that, unlike you, I do know.

Your knowledge is the extent of club publications, or whether it is mentioned on the radio. If not mentioned, if doesn't happen, or the player had a poor game.

its called a bit of banter nowt to be embarrassed about, leeds have lost a couple of games so what they will still be there at the end of the season

I can't even be bothered finding your post to embarrass you but we all saw it and a Wire fan pointed out your stupid claim about Westerman and Clark.

I know more than you think, you don't know me to even make that claim, just know that some of us unlike you don't have lips looser than a whore's knickers like yourself. The reason I shoot down so much of the rumours spread on here isn't because I'm "towing the party line" even though you and other rumour spreaders would love that to be the reason.....it's because I genuinely know that 80% of the stuff posted on here is bullsh*t.

You aren't more "in the know"....you're just more likely to spill any story you hear. When people tell me stuff in confidence I actually understand what the word "confidence" means unlike yourself who is just desperate to impress and look "in the know".

Hull KR beat Leeds and what do we get? Hull FC fans argueing with Leeds fans. I love RL

When we beat KR in the cup final last year, Hull FC fans celebrated the result more than any victory of theirs they've had in the last 10 years......it was truely sad how much they celebrated as if they actually achieved something.

Yep, also conditioners aren't just the guys who look after the gyms or tell the players to do a few more laps anymore either. The lead conditioner at a club is an integral part of the coaching team and is effectively an assistant coach since conditioning affects every aspect of training.

Oh hang on I did find it......



Let's see you backtrack out of that bullsh*t "in the loop" info that you dropped on us.

You hear rumours just like plenty of us.....the major difference is that you're just more gullible to believe every single one you hear and post it in your desperate need to look 'in the know'.

Where is Joe Westerman playing?

I would suggest most of what happens at Leeds is posted on here well before it happens - Falloon coming was posted on here a good 2 months before the club said anything.

I am glad you pulled that up, I wanted you to be the one just to prove my point exactly.

So I never said Clark needed Westerman, like you posted. I said it clearly what it was, and what happened, and what is happening. We pulled out of a deal for both Clark and Westerman. Clark wanted to be back over here, and hence his desire to make the move to Leeds, and why Wire were a willing seller. We didn't see it through and Wire making other arrangements. Westerman was told the deal was done with Leeds, but Leeds wouldn't agree Hulls fee. My exact post at the time was (and before the papers and others) was that Leeds had gone back on the deal as they believe the Burgess deal is a goer. The same Burgess confirmed we were still in for by our CEO weeks after. I also said at the time on a post after the one you pulled up, as people got stupid (like you) that the chauffeur line was taken too literally. Wire paid the full fee for Westerman has it totally fit for them, in that Clark had a lift from his mate, and could locate where he wanted. I made it clear on that second post that of course they didn't just sign for a lift.

Please don't tell us you do know but keep quite. For gods sake you have only been going during the bandwagon days, and even then you seem to attend no more than a third of games. You know nothing outside of the club and below the professional game. Only last year you tried to make out you knew what Morgsn Smith was on, got a bit loose there with those lips, but as usual was totally wrong. Then you had the cheek to tell us Ward had a bad game at Hull KR last year, just because I said he was very good, because you didn't hear his name on the radio.

For your information, talking about things is not loose lips. Rugby League unlike football, is a community sport. And involving yourself in community clubs, something I doubt you have ever been involved in, conversations always take place whilst a lot of time is spent there. I personally, regardless of you, will continue to repeat what is discussed, unless anyone tells me specifically not to. And for your information I have been told specifically not to on two current dels for next year, but they dont involve Leeds. However, there are people who post on here who are a lot closer to any info than the likes of me,

Your complete lack of been in any loop sees you have a go at people continuously. You have already been picked up this year on Frosties. You deflect this in to then accusing two posters of been the same. You are not on a good run, with your barrel of excuses deteriating rapidly. If I were you I would keep to your own advice, and keep quite and a little less presence. Stop the jealous bitching all the time and maybe you can learn something, and who knows pretend you are in a loop instead.

Of course this constant deflection does work to your advantage in terms of the current plight of the club, which is far more important than your little bitch rants all the time. If you took some time to move away from the end of last season, and start to concentrate on what has been happening for weeks now in the current season, someone might actually take you seriously.

As you always want the last word, I have no doubt you will want to respond, but can you do it to PM so it does not deflect from what the board is about, and bore everyone with the bitching. I will even let you have that last word, promise.

So.......other than the above its all going rather well

This forum's heading in the same direction as the first team at the minute. It's either petty squabbling like the above, the usual troll accounts that recycle the same old crap over and over or posts like 'X will never make a Super League player, I've said it all along'. There's zero interesting discussion.

What other topics do you think need to be discussed that aren't getting discussed?

This is nothing. There's been a civil war ongoing between the "boo boys" and the "apologists" for years on the Hull forum, every other post is either an insult or someone trying to bait someone else. There does seem to be a bit of a ceasefire currently though.

Ah well it's the same here, winning or losing. At least we have consistency

I would like to point out that to be a supporter of a club you don't have to have supported since you were 6 years old, been born or live in the correct post code or any other such as stupid criteria. All are welcome to support and voice their opinions, just because you have been supporting for a century doesn't make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses.
We complain that RL isn't growing and due to some of the attitudes I see on hear it comes as no surprise.
Some of our more senior supporters need to grow up and stop acting like spoilt brats

[uTranslation[/u: I'm a SL-era Rhinos fan, I'm young and I'm not from LS6.

Think you might be wrong on at least one of those statements (although that might depend on how you define 'young')

born and bred in Leeds, lived in Leeds all my life (50) and supported Leeds through thin and thinner since being 12 years old

I'm a SL-era Rhinos fan, I'm not from LS6 neither do I live there. I pay my money and get to as many Rhino's games as I can. As LeedsLurch mentioned, I feel I'm entitled to an opinion and it shouldn't make my opinion any less valued.

Cripes!

Folk getting all tetchy and defensive on here.

I blame Leeds current dire performances and ladder position for that.

I'll make sure I utilise a smiley wink or two next time

I thought we were bad when we lost Briers, Morley & Carvell at the end of 2013, but this Leeds side is something else! At least you'll get a Leeds v Bradford match this year.

Sandow's not looking like such a "waste of money" for us now is he?