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| GH must have accepted failure in his pursuit of Widdop & Houghton despite the scorn by some they were genuine targets.
As for this i think 2yrs is a year too long but we've seen players still under contract move on/retire in the past so who knows.
As a side the u16's he and Abbo Coach have ended the season unbeaten and i've got to say play some cracking RL.
Only time will tell if it's a good move or not i will add that i agree with AG wrt giving R.Ward and Lilley gametime.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"GH must have accepted failure in his pursuit of Widdop & Houghton despite the scorn by some they were genuine targets.
As for this i think 2yrs is a year too long but we've seen players still under contract move on/retire in the past so who knows.
As a side the u16's he and Abbo Coach have ended the season unbeaten and i've got to say play some cracking RL.
Only time will tell if it's a good move or not i will add that i agree with AG wrt giving R.Ward and Lilley gametime.'"
Just to add, and no disrespect to Ablett and Burrow, but to be honest there are many coaches around the country who could have taken that Rhinos under 16 side unbeaten. There is some excellent players in that side, who excel week in week out for their amateur clubs also, without the influence of Ablett and Burrow.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just to add, and no disrespect to Ablett and Burrow, but to be honest there are many coaches around the country who could have taken that Rhinos under 16 side unbeaten. There is some excellent players in that side, who excel week in week out for their amateur clubs also, without the influence of Ablett and Burrow.'"
Indeed. The spine of that side - Jack Walker, Cam Smith, Harvey Whiteley - are among the best players in the country in their age group. Add in the likes of Oledski and Nicholson and they're a very impressive unit.
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| Excellent move by the Club. Despite in the autumn of his career Robbie still has the pace and all round skills but what makes him so special in SL is the game breaking ability to make a match winning play all on his own. Added to that he can play (or cover) two key positions. These players are rare and to discard him while he still can do this would be foolish indeed. Big Mac has shown he will give the youngsters a chance and Burrow has not been a starter much this season but I am sure he will once more prove his worth as the season progresses.
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RB has not had the game time others have, not so long ago lots were calling for D Mc to be ousted, but he has shown class is perminant and a good player can adapt. Little rob will make you eat your words before season is over, better to play with him than him playing against you thanks for what you have given over the years little fella
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| One thing Burrow brings which is very much missing from this Leeds team is an effective support game. When someone makes abreak you usually have Danny on their shoulder, but he hasn't got the legs to go any distance these days. Frustrating as it was when he slipped on last play at Huddersfield, he was the only one who was there to take the ball. Its not a facet of the game that Hardaker or Sutcliffe have developed partiularly well, so keeping Burrow around will convert more breaks into tries
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| Although I am pleased Burrow is staying at Leeds I wish people would stop justfying it as being prudent for cover at hooker. Whoever Leeds sign/don't sign, considering Burrow as a hooker option will only lead to somebody being caught with their pants down.
Burrow has proven countless times he is NOT a hooker especially when you consider the disruption in defence.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Although I am pleased Burrow is staying at Leeds I wish people would stop justfying it as being prudent for cover at hooker. Whoever Leeds sign/don't sign, considering Burrow as a hooker option will only lead to somebody being caught with their pants down.
Burrow has proven countless times he is NOT a hooker especially when you consider the disruption in defence.'"
He seemed to fill in ok at that role in the Challenge Cup final, a game I seem to remember that mattered.Not a out and out hooker ,but a good enough stop gap.
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| Good move signing him up for another 2 years. Cas will now have to pay a transfer fee.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Although I am pleased Burrow is staying at Leeds I wish people would stop justfying it as being prudent for cover at hooker. Whoever Leeds sign/don't sign, considering Burrow as a hooker option will only lead to somebody being caught with their pants down.
Burrow has proven countless times he is NOT a hooker especially when you consider the disruption in defence.'"
Well I wish some people would not be so blinkered that they cannot see the unique contribution Burrow can make as a hooker. You can argue that he is better as a half back but for some time now he has been asked to play as a hooker a role which he taken to with great success on the whole and a position in which he was selected for his country. Sure when he plays at 9 we change our defensive formation but the positives more than outweigh any negatives and his sniping runs draw opposition defenders out of position and create space in a way that very few other 9s can match. He is still one of the SL players who are most feared by the opposition when he gets his hands on the ball.
Against HKR last night he made good impact off the bench and upped the tempo in his usual style.
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| 3 very experienced players are leaving this year probably GH and Mac thought losing 4 was one too many all at once.I would have thought a one year rolling deal would have been about right for Rob though
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Just to add, and no disrespect to Ablett and Burrow, but to be honest there are many coaches around the country who could have taken that Rhinos under 16 side unbeaten. There is some excellent players in that side, who excel week in week out for their amateur clubs also, without the influence of Ablett and Burrow.'"
I'm sure there are some excellent Coaches out there and i have no doubts many of them (players) are doing the business for their respective amateur clubs but they don't all play together do they?
Credit where it's due imo.
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| This deal looks like a massive mistake at moment.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"This deal looks like a massive mistake at moment.'"
The only massive mistake was the council letting you have access to the Internet.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"This deal looks like a massive mistake at moment.'"
Like I Have said previously, the deal was agreed months ago not when announced. I expect he won't be here next season as the club realise he really offers nothing for us going forward.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Like I Have said previously, the deal was agreed months ago not when announced. I expect he won't be here next season as the club realise he really offers nothing for us going forward.'"
That would require either Hetherington or McDermott making a dispassionate decision about one of the golden generation. Not going to happen. He's here until he decides it's time to retire.
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| Quote ="Him"The only massive mistake was the council letting you have access to the Internet.'"
Weak hey If you disagree add a sensible comment oh you can't coz your another f**king C**t
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Quote ="Him"The only massive mistake was the council letting you have access to the Internet.'" '"
Quote ="rollin thunder"Weak hey If you disagree add a sensible comment oh you can't coz your another f**king C**t'"
Your opinion is as bad as your language
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Weak hey If you disagree add a sensible comment oh you can't coz your another f**king C**t'"
I stand by my previous assertion.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"That would require either Hetherington or McDermott making a dispassionate decision about one of the golden generation. Not going to happen. He's here until he decides it's time to retire.'"
So you don't think Sinfield was encouraged to take the RU option? Maybe Burrow might be 'tempted' to do the same?
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"So you don't think Sinfield was encouraged to take the RU option? Maybe Burrow might be 'tempted' to do the same?'"
Nope. I think Sinfield has expressed a wish to play Union in the past, and saw this as his last opportunity to do so. I don't for one minute think he was somehow "persuaded" to move on.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"That would require either Hetherington or McDermott making a dispassionate decision about one of the golden generation. Not going to happen. He's here until he decides it's time to retire.'"
Absolutely, on the occasions I have talked with GH, that was the thing that came through to me, a real sentimental softy with out a ruthless bone in his body,........No really totally sentimental
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| I have just been my watching son play this morning. And at the game was speaking to one of the Rhinos coaches in the structure. I will not name names, but he confirmed that MCDermott decided at end of last season that there was no place for Burrow in the future team, and it was Hetherington that went ahead and offered a deal.
As I have said on here, I just can't see Burrow here next season.
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| Which is what I was told.
I fail to see what burrow offers anymore? Been one of my favourite players but should have been moved on
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Which is what I was told.
I fail to see what burrow offers anymore? Been one of my favourite players but should have been moved on'"
As I Wigan fan I like to think I'm bringing an unbiased view to this discussion.
I've read through the pages of this thread - I can't understand the dislike for Burrows. He's not the same player he was, but he still makes opposition fans tense up when he has the ball in his hands.
Unless you've got someone drastically better for that backup hooker/half role I don't see the problem in keeping him around for another year. I think he's great at coming on for 30 minutes and injecting some pace around the ruck.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"Absolutely, on the occasions I have talked with GH, that was the thing that came through to me, a real sentimental softy with out a ruthless bone in his body,........No really totally sentimental
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When it comes to some players, he clearly is. Not sure how else you would describe the awarding of a two year contract to a player in his 30s who has dropped off a cliff in terms of form and effectiveness over the last 18 months?
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