We'll not over 20k every year but we have had over in the recent past. And get pretty close on an annual basis

I'd like to see a two tiered with seating and boxes on top tier and safe standing on bottom.

Big problem with the south stand also is that when the crowd gets bigger than say 17k the south stand is packed in like sardines.

Not experienced it "in the flesh", although I have the others I listed.

It's a bit of a hotch-potch isn't it, much like the old Highbury? Some new bits, some older bits that had a lick of paint.

I'd say since the back end of the 90s that it has all been done over. Under the surface walking around, there are nooks and corners (if you are in the know) that are a tad 'older' but they are few and far between really.

If you are going to Magic Weekend (hope you are) you can have a look at it then

Headingley RL ground couldn't really be sold for very much what could be developed on what would be just a space between the roadside and cricket ground.I remember in the 1970s when LCC were making a serious bid for the 1978 commonwealth games they earmarked around a possible site around Wheatwood ringroad area .I think an ideal capacity for headingley after redevelopment would be 23-24K and its no good saying 'oh we don't get anywhere near that'but settling for 18k capacity is sending out the wrong messages, how many FA prem teams fill their stadiums

Just as long as the Roof in the South Stand isn't too high so it looses the Atmosphere.
I think that's why it makes Headingley one of the most Atmospheric Grounds certainly in Rugby League.

IIRC from the last planning application, the height of the South Stand would be limited to what it is now?

Agree with all you say but would put Lord's at the top of the list of UK stadiums, and it's also a stadium that benefits from keeping its traditions while building up and out and moving with the times. Of course it has had more money available to it than Headingley will have.

Any proposed development that takes Headingley to much more than 20k and the council planning department would have a fit.

Logistically, a 20k stadium in the most densely populated part of the city doesn't make a lot of sense. Headingley is already heavily congested even on non-matchdays. Encouraging 25k+ to the area is something that is very much off the LCC agenda.

Caught the end of it on look north but I am sure it mentioned that the cricket club might have to close their side of the north stand as it's unsafe? Surley if the cricket side is unsafe that would effect the north stand as well

The way some people moan about the Western Terrace is laughable. It is, like you say, one of the best viewing points for watching Rugby League in the game. As for people banging on about getting wet, it rarely rains on match days. Most of the time fans stand blissfully supping ale on balmy summer nights. I will record the amount of wet weather that fans have to endure on the said terrace and I'm sure most of the moaners will be silenced by the results. So far this season supporters have had a 100% fair weather experience. It may also surprise people to learn that it hasn't rained at Odsal for a Bradford v Leeds game for at least 12 years, not a drop. I've been to every one since 2003 and only ever come away with a suntan.

Headingley's big draw is its location but yes, it does need some upgrading. Surely with the space along the top of the west terrace, there is scope to maintain if not increase the capacity at that end and still provide cover. Also, the viewing from the west isn't that great as the terracing is too shallow,

Thats simply not true.

We've had 1 game, it rained.

Wire beginning of last year it rained, a lot, i remember because the 200 mile drive home was a little uncomfortable.

Sort out the North. Then tart up the south.

It's just not true to say Leeds haven't spent on their ground. They've spent more on the stadium in the Hetherington era than any club other than St Helens, including Warrington who got an entire new ground for less than Leeds have invested. This is manifested mostly in the Carnegie Stand (which wasn't "paid for" by Leeds Met - they helped the ongoing finances stack up very well but the £7m build cost came direct from Leeds' own cash reserves) and the corporate areas. But there is also a reason that Headingley's rugby side isn't completely falling down like the Jungle or, it seems, the cricket side - all that money spent on reroofing the north and south stands, strengthening the south stand so it can operate at full capacity again etc etc.

And the primary reason for the delay in further work is not so much to do with Hetherington being tight, although if there is a free lunch for the club in the form of any kind of grants or subsidies he will be all over it. It's all because Yorkshire are a bunch of insolvent idiots who keep saying they want to do the north stand project but never have the funds when it comes to making the decision. Leeds can immediately afford to do one or the other, north or south (the south was going to be paid pretty much in cash like the Carnegie was, the north is a lot more expensive so will have to involve borrowing). But even Leeds can't afford to do both. Since the south stand planning was granted, Yorkshire decided that yes the football/north stand was suddenly a shorter term project than Leeds had expected. Given that, the south stand project had to go by the wayside and is probably a non starter for the next decade or so.

Complete rubbish - unless you took a tanning lamp with you, every other year the game is played on a thursday night at easter!!

I've been entrenched on the Western Terrace for the last 15 years and the last time we got wet at a home game we have to go all the way back to... last week!!

We all view Headingley with affection. I'm sure Wire fans did with Wilderspool and Hull fans did with the boulevard. But, like those famous old girls, Headingley is a tired old dump. Most areas are barely fit for purpose.

In an ideal world they would move to a new, purpose built stadium but I recognise that is unlikely so they will continue to patch and mend.

Ashes already been said Leeds were all set to start on the south stand as the North stand was a no go as it required investment from YCCC. YCCC didn't have the funds so this was set aside and Leeds wanted to move on with the South stand. However this tack has changed late last year as YCCC have realised they now need to improve the shared stand in order to compete for the England tests in the future. From the last I heard YCCC had 60% of their part of the funding in place.

As for the western terrace, is there any legs in the rumour Leeds own a number of the properties towards the rear of it? I think the western is the last stand on the list to be rebuilt but if capacity can be increased over the next 15 years with new stands to the North and South then capacity could be slightly reduced on the west and a shallow cantilever stand could be created.

With hindsight, going back 15 years or so, the best thing that could have happened to Headingley would have been for YCCC to move to Durkar.
The cricketers could have had a new ground similar to Hants with the Rose bowl.
The rugby side could then have sold off the cricket ground, which they owned at that time, & used the money to completely redevelop the rugby side.
Provided all that had gone ahead before the current financial crisis then we may all have been in clover right now.
Isn't hindsight wonderful?
To put some other comments into context, the current YCCC management is far from being the idiots portrayed elsewhere in this topic.
Colin Graves with his financial support has saved the club safeguarding its future such that we are the current county champions.
The new Chief Exec is doing an excellent job with the support of the board & his staff - playing & non-playing - such that I fully expect the rebuilding of a joint rugby stand to go ahead for completion before 2019.
That should then go a significant way towards resolving the complaints about the state of the stadium.

I loved Wilderspool, and people may say the HJ is identi-kit but i love the functionality of the HJ, it is a far superior stadium.

You seem to know a bit about this

Yes ,but LCC were desparate to keep 1st class and test cricket in the City of Leeds and they helped out YCCC to acquire the Cricket side,, unfortunately the RL club hasn't had anything like the same kind of assistance