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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Young side coming up against that Wire side
That was a superb performance by our boys'"
4 tries to 3 away to a full-strength Warrington without both our half-backs and 4 out of 6 of our Grand Final pack? I'd say it was superb performance.
Maybe we should have used one of bench spots for Sinfield to come on and take the conversions though.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"4 tries to 3 away to a full-strength Warrington without both our half-backs and 4 out of 6 of our Grand Final pack? I'd say it was superb performance.
Maybe we should have used one of bench spots for Sinfield to come on and take the conversions though.'"
And losing 2 forwards during the game.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Take the blinkers off Loz. It wasn't that young. We should have drawn and the performance throughout was average at best. The commentators were building it up as something it wasn't.
In that last set they should have got no where near our posts.'"
Yeah and given our recent performances we shouldn't have got anywhere near Wire
The performance we shown (yes there was errors and lets not forget another injury) tonight was from a team who you could see wasn't at there best but they have passion and showed how they can cope
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| In the grand scheme of things the result means little for us as 3rd was always more of an outside chance. Now we pretty much know for sure 4th is the best we can get and as long as we don't have a bad run of results this is where we will finish.
In terms of our performance the inexperience showed in some key areas, especially setting up some plays on their line in the first half and some of the options towards the end when coming away from our line.
A game like that is fantastic esperience for someone like sutcliffe. You can't get that in training or in the youth teams.
I don't really see any negatives apart from the potential injuries. We showed that if we get some key players we will be there or thereabouts in the playoffs.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"4 tries to 3 away to a full-strength Warrington without both our half-backs and 4 out of 6 of our Grand Final pack? I'd say it was superb performance.
Maybe we should have used one of bench spots for Sinfield to come on and take the conversions though.'"
A thing there tonight which we haven't seen much recently was there
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| Exactly.
It was a god awful game. Too many errors and both teams looked clueless for the majority of the game.
As for the last set, I stand by what I said. I don't care how many we had out. It was 13 on 13. They had a set start so we had a full defensive line. They should have never got over halfway.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"
In that last set they should have got no where near our posts.'"
That may be true, they made yards too easily in that set, but playing 79 minutes with 15 men may have had something to with it. By that stage, young centres Foster and Keinhorst were in the pack with Clarkson propping and Ablett, Peacock and McShane all having done near enough 80 minutes.
Win, lose or draw we're still looking like coming 4th this year. Plenty to take out of that game.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Take the blinkers off Loz. It wasn't that young. We should have drawn and the performance throughout was average at best. The commentators were building it up as something it wasn't.
In that last set they should have got no where near our posts.'"
Are you for real?
Go f*ck yourself. The team played their bollox off and could barely stand at the end. We did well to prevent the drop goal from coming earlier.
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Lose by a point in the last minute
That was probably one of the top performances this season so far.
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| I actually think that will have been a huge morale boost I think
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Yeah and given our recent performances we shouldn't have got anywhere near Wire
The performance we shown (yes there was errors and lets not forget another injury) tonight was from a team who you could see wasn't at there best but they have passion and showed how they can cope'"
Again, your inability to look past the blue and amber side of things has always been your Achilles heel Loz.
The reason we were able to compete was because they were so bad tonight. The couldn't complete and made basic errors that Salford would laugh at.
The thing is though, we were in it, and we shouldn't have lost it. They made metres in the 2nd half but didn't make metres as easy as that last set. It was as if they thought they had done enough by kicking the ball dead and went to sleep.
It's a simple game to understand. All you have to do is look at it neutrally like I do.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Ashamed???
WTF get a grip they hardly had any ball and were down 2 men away from home against ateam most predicted would beat us by 20+.
Also for every mistake we made Wire made just as many and that knock on call against Mcshane who was facing his own line anyway when the ball was clearly stolen should ahve the officials hanging their heads in shame.
The team got stuck in and outscored them 4 tries to 3 yes the mistakes were frustrating and we maybe we could and should have seen out the last 5 minutes better but FFS give the team some credit they were knackered.
If that was any other team with so many injuries you would be one of the first to give them credit.'"
Agreed. The mcshane knock on which wasn't a knock on cost us is the end and helped them to pin us down our end. Wire were as poor as you are lilkely to see them and we should have had 2 points from the game, but as you say we were given little chance before the game and to lose two players from the interchange it was a big effort from the team. The one negative straight off the bat though was the last set. Wire should never have had the chance of a drop goal.
All in all a big effort.
On a side note would have to see it again but the Achurch injury seemed bizzare. Play had stopped a long time (or appeared to) before Westwood decided to drag him down and role all over his ankle. Only seen the incident once but, and I may be wrong,
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"I actually think that will have been a huge morale boost I think'"
It will be once the initial sting of losing has gone. Once the players can take a more objective look at the game without the emotion they will be able to see how well they did and how good things look going into the back end of the season, the players missing will play a big part in that.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Leeds should be ashamed with how they've played tonight. That last set was amateur to let Warrington drive down 100 m.
This was possibly the worst Warrington performance I have seen in a few years. Leeds blew it, fair and simple.'"
Don't talk daft. The ref pulled us back far too far for that last set. We were all screaming at the game. 4 tries to 3 can hardly be ashamed.
A couple of players should be ashamed though.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Exactly.
It was a god awful game. Too many errors and both teams looked clueless for the majority of the game.
As for the last set, I stand by what I said. I don't care how many we had out. It was 13 on 13. They had a set start so we had a full defensive line. They should have never got over halfway.'"
I have to question which game you were actually watching. I thought it was a cracking game. I think both teams struggled with their execution of set plays but then both sides are "off the cuff" type teams rather than the methodical Wigan/NRL approach so you can expect more errors, and I don't think either team looked clueless.
I agree the last set was disappointing and they shouldn't have made that much yardage, but I think the reasons for that are fairly obvious and understandable.
The "I don't care how many we had out. It was 13 on 13." comment is a bit silly.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Are you for real?
Go f*ck yourself. The team played their bollox off and could barely stand at the end. We did well to prevent the drop goal from coming earlier.
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That was probably one of the top performances this season so far.'"
Harrigan is spot on.
It was a poor, error-strewn standard from both teams. Below amateur standard in defence by Leeds late on when conceding all that territory for the winning drop goal.
Just a shame it didn't end in a draw because neither team deserved a win.
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| Who should be ashamed Gotcha?
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| Quote ="William Eve"Harrigan is spot on.
It was a poor, error-strewn standard from both teams. Below amateur standard in defence by Leeds late on when conceding all that territory for the winning drop goal.
Just a shame it didn't end in a draw because neither team deserved a win.'"
Your opinion is invalid. Do not reply to one of my posts again.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Again, your inability to look past the blue and amber side of things has always been your Achilles heel Loz.
The reason we were able to compete was because they were so bad tonight. The couldn't complete and made basic errors that Salford would laugh at.
The thing is though, we were in it, and we shouldn't have lost it. They made metres in the 2nd half but didn't make metres as easy as that last set. It was as if they thought they had done enough by kicking the ball dead and went to sleep.
It's a simple game to understand. All you have to do is look at it neutrally like I do.'"
Cheers, thanks for the Rugby Lesson there....
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Who should be ashamed Gotcha?'"
Kirke mainly. A player his size going backwards on most occasions, and other times watching younger players take his ball. This after arguing earlier that all it takes to replace JJB extra metres is for Kirke to up his work rate.
On another note I though BJB had his best game ever. Looked outstanding did the lad.
Need to see on TV yet though. Travelling back now.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Cheers, thanks for the Rugby Lesson there....'"
Well the amount of times you go off on one in the ground, only to be proven wrong a few seconds later! You need them every now and again
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| Am I seriously (along with Jeff) the only one who thought that was a god awful game throughout though?
Please tell me this place hasn't gone down hill that much that posters actually have been beaten into submission by the Sky commentary team and believe everything they say?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Kirke mainly. A player his size going backwards on most occasions, and other times watching younger players take his ball. This after arguing earlier that all it takes to replace JJB extra metres is for Kirke to up his work rate.
On another note I though BJB had his best game ever. Looked outstanding did the lad.
Need to see on TV yet though. Travelling back now.'"
BJB looked very good. We have needed him back so badly
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Your opinion is invalid. Do not reply to one of my posts again.'"
I often find that opinions are generally more valid from those who actually watched the game on Sky with the sound muted during the entirety as opposed to listening to others opinions and taking them at face value. It was a crap game and no amount of Sky commentators eulogising about their company product will change that.
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| I think "ashamed" is a strong word in this case mate i thought they all had a dig and obviously some were better than others and whilst i agree they battered Kirke i don't think he should be ashamed.
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