He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Wigan games. his Cherry tinted specs are embarrassing

Genuinely embarrassing

No phil, the winger in the Wigan shirt wasn't charley it was burrow, honestly phil

Agreed. Can't help thinking he singled him out though as you can hear Silverwood complaining to Sinny after he converts JJBs try about JP. JP said something to Silverwood just before about a high shot on him going unpunished. Keef was right about him!

Let's hope Charnley doesn't play in the WC - his defence is woeful and hasn't improved any since he first came into SL

Early call perhaps, but Delaney for Leeds player of the season?

Hope ablett is ok. Don't like the tackle technique that was used to injure ablett. Two up top one round the legs as he is stationary a 4th person steams into the exposed rib area and the attacker is just a sitting duck. For me I would like to see the RFL crack down on this

It's very early in the season but would be a fair shout. The type of player you need in your team. Works his socks off doesn't take a backwards step and you can tell every week he is giving his all 100%

Should've won by more but messed up chances, but unlike in 2011/12 when it seemed like most games we were saying ''the forwards were beaten'', we're doing better in that department in 2013, helped by an extended pre-season for Peacock.

Now we need to start clicking in finishing off good field positions, this will surely improve when we have serious threats on both sides of the pitch.

The right side defence is still a worry....and it's not just Vickery's fault. Ablett going off suggests a problem which might rule him out at least next week which would require a further rejigging of the backs. Hardaker I believe was ruled out for a month with his injury and he's now missed 4 weeks so I wonder if he'll be in contention for next weekend.

Great efforts from Delaney (again) and Hall (again).

Can't stand Silverwood at all, and also I don't know how the VR took so long on the Moon try. Even Clarke said it was a try quite quickly (although with great sadness in his voice).

BMcD agrees:

Himself, Peacock and Hall are certainly the early front runners IMO.

I agree

Moon as well

His off load out to Hall in the first half was unreal

Agree he looks dangerous with ball in hand and his defence is a lot better than I was expecting

Kirke last night seemed to play with more aggression to his game. I know he bombed the try. But in general looked to have decent leg drive and ran it up like he meant it.

Might help if the players directly inside him stopped leaving him with two and three men to defend.

The lack of communication and poor decision making between Sinfield and McGuire for the Thornley try would have been comical if it wasn't so serious.

I thought he looked nervous last night. What he needs is a bit of space to have a good run with the ball in hand to get that confidence back up. Sadly, playing where he does it's highly unlikely to happen. Most of his work is having to be done without the ball.

Anyone else reckon Richard Moore had a pretty solid game apart from a couple of pretty dodgy offloa attempts I thought he ran hard and put some really big hits in and although he didn't get much time on the pitch achurch looked a lot sharper from his step down with the hawks

Moore went well, but there are still times when he needs to take a look before throwing the offload.

It's ok having a go at the players around him for not being aware, but a couple of those last night that ended up flying out at ankle height didn't need to be made.

Sometimes, you get more benefit from winning the collision and generating a quick play the ball than popping out a risky offload.

Joel Moon is a quality signing for you lot, a real class act. However, Vickery looks exremely poor.

Yes barring some dumb offloads Moore looked good. Achurch also looked better granted he had less game time.


Regarding Vickery he isn't the worst player in the world he just isn't that impressive. Looks to have no pace, and defence is weak. (Agree regarding the entire right edge in the thornley try)

I suppose he is just filling in at the moment and provides cover for injuries

If he showed that amount of aggression and more every week he wouldn't get singled out as much imo.
Also during his 1st half stint he didn't dominate Thornley in the tackle and was left on the deck at the ptb!!
Saying that and the bombed try he was much improved on recent efforts to be fair.

Thought it was a solid performance that would have looked a little better if we had finished more clinically.
The forwards went well and on the back of that we did dominate Wigan for large periods.
However, we can't function with just Burrow as a 9. McShane would have added more balance to that side and freed Burrow to roam later in the game. Can't see the point in having Achurch on the bench and barely use him and only have one hooker (who is really a 7). Burrow's passing was at times very laboured. Dummy half play is a lot more than just passing to the nearest runner .
That team looks poorly balanced with Watkins at 1 and the Ablett / Vickery combo. The backs don't work.
We will look much better with Hardaker back, but we need another option at 1 (although you could say that BJB would be that other option - so bad luck with that).
I like BMD's after match interviews but I wish he'd stop blaming the weather. FFS ? we used to play the game in winter, we start in winter and we finish in winter and the coatings on the ball these days are a million miles from the bars of soap we used to play with. True, stupid offloads, playing very flat where every pass is taken under pressure and lack of concentration will all be helped by dry conditions. Under Smith and Bluey we were a great wet weather team, under BMD we are not.

Who picked the in ground MOM?

Ray Charles? Stevie Wonder?

Fantastic

Before the play offs Sinfield was saying how this team preferred playing in autumnal, rainy conditions.

As a neutral I've got to say it was a cracking game to watch, and I reckon you just about deserved the win. It could have been greatly different if Wigan had chosen to kick towards Vickery instead of Hall. You have to wonder if they've ever seen Ryan under the high ball. Safe as houses.

I think it was more to with Wigan plying to their Strengths (ie Charnley) rather than Leeds weaknesses. Hall showed he is the Best winger in the country though last night against the guy most likely to get the other wing spot. His 5 mini sidesteps bamboozled Richards and further highlighted how good he is at finishing when he gets a sniff. On another night he could have had a bag full but Wigan defended well.