did anyone really think there wouldn't be a blip soon after 2 tough games? if it wasn't friday it would have been next week

We had enough ball near their line to at least score 1, their defense was very solid and our attack was too disjointed even when we did manage to hold on to the ball for 6 tackles.

I think you can have a blip without been as dire as we were tbh mate it was on par with anything we've seen bad in the last decade imo.

vickery is no better than the youngsters coming through the system.
why on earth hetherington would bring him in before the likes of chisolm and keinhorst baffles me.......an aussie who cant get a gig back home turns up here and gets a contract when he is ordinary baffles me......well done gary for doing your part to develop the game and youngsters here......

Being.

And Ian Kirke proves you wrong by winning grand final winners ring's. To compare the worse of Kirkes performances to Rob Burrows best performance is way too bias and proves you don't have a clue what your talking about.

It's fairly self evident

Get Damo...!

I watched the 'highlights' and said on another thread that blaming Vickery for so many of the Hudds tries is ludicrous. He made a bad miss for the first, but several of those kicks could and should have been dealt with by the fullback, not the winger - who would have struggled to make any difference had he been Offiah-esque, especially on a slippery surface.

Watkins was nowhere near in the right position, especially given the number of kicks that led to tries. Vickery had to stay in the line for several of them as he was marking his opposite number.

Defending kicks is a team game. Leeds failed miserably against a very good kicker.

Highlights from Hunslet, report read well for all the Rhinos'....rumour has it that Brian MaC was at the game as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGAxZefQzXw

Highlights from Hunslet, report read well for all the Rhinos'....rumour has it that Brian MaC was at the game as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGAxZefQzXw

Isn't there a brick somehwere you can hit yourself with?

Unfortunately not but I was hanging out with a Garden Gnome at the weekend that I wanted to chuck in the River Aire from my mates apartment. However I don't have £25 spare for a new one. Do you have £25? I could hit myself with this





But seriously (that's if you can take me seriously after this pic) your latest point against Kirke doesn't hold water because Rob Burrow (I'll let the experts Gotcha and Harrigan pick his past performances apart if they want to) and probably JJB have dire performances throughout their careers that are just as dire as Kirkes. However on reflection all three of them have more than made up for these off days by producing performances that have helped Leeds Rhinos become the champion team that they are today.

Your fixation on Ian Kirke is noted and therefore any opinion you have of his performances is most likely to be babble.

My criticism of Burrow wasn't that he was a poor player. He always gave 100% and before the defences in the UK game tightened up, was very good in broken play. It was that he wasnt a very accurate passer of the ball and couldn't organise, which are the key components of being a good 7. I like his role out of dummy half though. It's the only place where he still gets to see broken play on a regular basis and he rarely has to pass more than 5 yards. It's win/win.

I think the gnome may have more intrinsic value and the universe might be better if you didn't chuck it in the river but threw yourself in, instead.


Has anyone ever taken you seriously, pre or post pic?

I'll give you this, you've managed to engage me in more dialogue with you than I've ever deemed appropriate in the past however many years you've been positing drivel so well done sir. I'll revert to type from this point on however.

If you can't find a suitable brick I'd gladly supply one.

Would that be the same Danny Brough that has done that to us during the majority of games that he as played against us since the 2005 Cup Final ?

Why has no Leeds coach clocked on to his threat ?

Don't ask me. At the very least I'd be asking McGuire and Burrow to be always ready to fall back to cover kicks. Gareth Widdopp does this exceptionally well for the Storm, regularly diffusing kicks when Slater is out of position.

The worrying thing to me was that Saints did exactly the same thing the week before to us. They realised we had an inexperienced FB and went on 3rd/4th tackle the majority of sets and it worked well. The difference in that game was that we held onto the ball. It was obvious that with a kicker as good as Brough, Huddersfield would play the same way. We didnt adjust well at all. The one time Vickery dropped back Brough noticed and ran it. Sadly, the rest of the right side defence didnt pick up the slack and hung back expecting the kick. They went 60m to score.

It's unfortunate that the two guys with real fullback experience are the two backs who are out at the moment. It's a very specialised position, especially defending last tackle plays near your line where the full backs reading of the game and positional play is critical.

ah while harrigan has much to say defending the fragility of a poor winger's mental health, who should be training not reading this, i see damo is still fair game on here.

He paints the target on and hands out the ammunition. If you ask he'll even buy you the rifle.

We should send that picture to Tory HQ so they can come to the correct conclusion regarding minimum pricing for a unit of alcohol.

But starting Burrow at hooker means extra pressure is put on the defence as he isn't trusted to defend around the ruck. If it's a win offensively it's a loss in the other equally significant aspect of the game.

Wouldn't be a problem if the loose forward currently playing at stand off defended where a loose forward is supposed to.

None of the 3 you mention are good enough. The strength in depth is not great. Still doesn't stop us becoming champs but it stops us for being able to finish top of the pile.

I'm told Stevo selects the MOM award winner for SKY. Does that explain it ?

It depends what you mean by strength in depth. The salary cap means you can't have 2 or 3 quality spares in each position. You have to try an get reliable players who won't cost the earth to pad out the gaps in between the star players. This is something we have done really well over the years. We have brought in Vickery as cover for our outside backs. We have always used Ablett as centre cover, which makes snese when you see how many reserve forwards we have. It would have been nice to have a Lee Smith to come in, but he was obviously not satisfied with playing in the 21s all season, and when he did get the chance he looked lethargic. On top of that we have several juniors who may or may not be called on, but I'd say we have pretty decent strength in depth compared to most in SL