How is Vievers even in this conversation? The man has had no money to buy anyone, his squad has been decimated by players leaving. Surely he has to be one of the safest jobs in SL as there cannot be any expectation on him or his team??

On the basis of new owner, new management team wanting to put their own stamp on the organisation.
I'm not saying it's fair or even justified that Vievers should be sacked, simply stating my opinion.

The new owner has come out and said how happy he is witht he current coaching setup and that he will back Vievers. Which if you read the papers and the amount of players Salford are set to sign when takeover is announced. It seems strange you would sign all these guys who are coming to play for him then to sack him?? Doesn't make sense

Anderson is a good choice, probaly about 6th game in.Will walk straight into the vacant slot at Headingley and Mcdermott will end up at Huddersfield.

On that basis McDermott will be first.

veivers it is then

It does seem odd that Vievers has been blamed for Salford having a dreadful squad. The only way it will make sense is if they get someone like Tim Sheens in to replace him, as that would be a real statement of intent (despite the fact that Tigers fans have been very critical of Sheens for a number of years). Sheens as coach may well make a few players rethink Salford's prospects.

The choice of Salford's next coach will tell us a lot about whether their new owner is going to deliver a decent team or whether it's all a lot of hot air.

I stand corrected

Well I think it will be the later.

He wants silverwear by the end of the year. Which is totally unrealistic.

And he has also promised his fans they won't see another performance like their last again. with another game quickly coming up and over the course of a long season I don't know how he dare make such a sweeping statement.

With shocking attendance figures, a poor start, no coach etc maybe he's trying to convince himself he's made a sound investment.

Would be great for the game to have a successful side in Salford (Manchester) and given time I'd like to think it could happen but everyone (including the new owner) needs to be realistic - it's not something that can or will happen overnight.

I don't particularly understand the logic of removing Veivers at this point (albeit his post-match interviews have come across as a little shrug shoulder casual) only to put Alan Hunte in charge but perhaps all will become apparent with a new full-time appointment.

I know Sheens has been mooted but tbh some of the good Doc's transfer targets have been so out of the ballpark that I wouldn't be surprised to see him try something much more speculative - perhaps a Shaun Edwards or Ellery Hanley-type target.

Tim Sheens would make sod all difference.

Salford are a collection of Championship standard players running around in SL every week. Expecting them to finish any higher than 13th this season would be unrealistic, no matter how rich their owner might be.

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If Salford suddenly have more cash to splash then there's no reason why Sheens couldn't make a difference - at least in turning them into a more competitive side. Salford are hardly going to keep their current squad if Sheens is brought in, are they?

Not wishing to boast or anything....

The level of players Koukash has been targetting are simply not going to be released mid-season. Even if they were, there's a limit to how many he can sign and stay within the salary cap/overseas quota.

Whoever comes in as coach is going to have to face up to being short of quality for the rest of 2013 and building again for 2014. It needs to be someone who can spell out to Koukash that Rome wasn't build in a day and that getting Salford to a position where they can compete with the top clubs is a long term job.

Koukash is now saying he wants the salary capped raised, I assume so he can go buy the Australian test team.
Yes lets go back to the days of the wealthy clubs like Wigan in the 80's who put 50 points past everybody week in week out and won the Challenge cup every year as theyt bought all the best available players and were fulltime.
I can only see this guy harming Super league if he gets his way being a pal of Nigel Woods.

It doesn’t need to be so extreme.

Salford, and SL would benefit from some more of the better players in Rugby playing in our League. I cant see what problem people could have with the buzz he would create by signing a big name. I think it is wrong that we put ourselves out of the market for most of the best players in the world.

There can be a middle way.

What would be the problem with having an SC of £1m and 5 marquee players off cap?

Mainly that most of those marquee players would be at 6 and 7 which would be a nightmare for England selection, and a lot of clubs couldn't support that level of spending. Imagine what happens when Wire, Wigan, Leeds and maybe Saints and Hull can just automatically hoover up the best of the available key players (think full back, halfbacks, hooker and the rocking-horse-poop that are quality centres) because they can pay far more than everyone else. The league would be getting more uncompetitive.

Leeds generated a huge buzz over the 2004-2012 period (ongoing really) based on home-grown players in most of those positions.

Agree. Seems reasonable to suppose that they've got a bit of cap space at the moment, so they might be able to bring people in, but the big teams are not going to de-stabilise their seasons by releasing star players, because the cap doesn't contain enough money to make that worth their while by paying a huge transfer fee.

Which player has created as much buzz, home grown or not, as Ali Lauitiiti did in 2004? Or Buderus? Or Webb?

There is the other side of things which whilst a team could spend big on bringing in 5 top top quality players and If we took your example even to the extreme and Leeds signed Inglis, Thurston, Cronk, Smith and Hodges, they would still need to sign 20 other players on an average of only £50k a player.

Or to make things a bit more flexible, keep the cap at £1.6m and have the option of up to 5 marquee players whose cap value is capped at £120k.

Koukash has been in the game 5 minutes and he presumes, because of his wealth, to offer an opinion on something as important to the sport as the salary cap.

When will he do a Whelan and threaten to throw his very expensive teddies out of the pram if he doesn't get his way?

Build something Mr Koukash, don't buy it. Rather than spend a fortune on Ausrtalian test players fund some development officers in the Manchester area. Hire a a proper, well paid marketing manager and give him a budget, fund schools and amateur clubs in the area. Build a foundation that can make Salford a real force in machester for the long term.

Spot on

he'll need to spend a bit on players short term so that they don't get hammered every week, but the top players aren't going to move there just because he's there. Even if he paid Tomkins another 1-200k a year is it actually worth it to Tomkins to move away from a club able to win things and move himself out of the spotlight in terms of NRL or Union.
As you say his biggest contribution to Salford and RL in general will be in his spending off the field.

Those two things don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

I think there is a good argument to say that having development officers in an apathetic area isn’t going to make the difference it could. There is sense in Dr Koukash using big names as part of the strategy to break-through and follow that up,

Who is going to inspire the kids in Salford and Manchester to take up RL more? Mick the development officer or SBW?

With regards to marketing, you have to have something to sell. Spending a million pounds now on marketing the club right now would probably be a waste of money, They might get some new people to attend but such a rubbish squad getting 30 points put on them will probably leave the vast majority of new attendee’s dismissing them as the ‘same old salford’.

Lets face it, Leeds have never been afraid of a big name, and whilst our recent success has been built on some top quality youngsters being brought through, we have gone out and added some pretty big names like Ali Lauitiiti, Danny Buderus, Chris McKenna, Marcus Bai, Brent Webb and bought in some of the top british players like Jamie Peacock and Gareth Ellis