I'd say McShane is more creative in the hooking position than Burrow is in the hooking position, Burrow is more creative as a scrum-half. Which begs last week's big question being aired once again - why is coach McDermott selecting Burrow as the starting hooker?

I'm hoping you guys do the business. You need to be better disciplined than against Wigan and keep up the pace like you did for spells in the 2nd half at the DW, quick runs from dummy half and be more clinical when you get field position and a better kicking game. Also posession was a big factor to the result Saturday I know Albert crippled you for an hour on Saturday but to be fair most of them were pens. I'm rooting for you.... COME ON ENGLAND !!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you. Could NOT have put it better myself. McShane has a useful short kicking game for a start. He is also built more like a forward and tough enough to bustle a forward or two out of the way close to the line after a feign to pass.

Brian mac says chances of lee smith being fit for Friday are slim. However kallum Watkins should be fit https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/georgeyboy

Brian mac says chances of lee smith being fit for Friday are slim. However kallum Watkins should be fit https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/georgeyboy

Quote ="bazzos90"Brian mac says chances of lee smith being fit for Friday are slim. However kallum Watkins should be fit https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/georgeyboy'" So can we also look forward to BJB's 2012 debut I wonder ( surely he won't shoe-horn Kirke in somehow )

Quote ="bazzos90"Brian mac says chances of lee smith being fit for Friday are slim. However kallum Watkins should be fit https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/georgeyboy'" So can we also look forward to BJB's 2012 debut I wonder ( surely he won't shoe-horn Kirke in somehow )

Burrow is a fantastic scrum half and the most dangerous player on our books. He's been in far better form, creatively, than McGuire for quite some time now.

People should recall that Burrow two crackerjack games at the end of last season, Warrington away and the Grand Final, did NOT come at hooker. Buderus played the full 80 in both those games.

It's way beyond time Burrow was put at scrum half from the start on a regular basis. If Sinfield has to be 6 then McGuire should wait for an injury for his chance (though I'd prefer Sinfield at 13).

I assume coach McDermott was consulted when Buderus was allow to renege on the final year of his deal and that he was happy with the players we had? It's time to urinate or get off the pot with McShane. The coaches reluctance to give him any meaningful game time is hindering his and the team's progression.

My only hope is he think Hood is the real deal and the answer and the current tactic is just a stop gap until Hood is fit.

It's something that needs deciding.

Leaving McShane hanging around without being played is a weird type of torture for a player.

Playing 10 mins between halfs against KR, then 'sub not used' against Wigan, doesn't send a positive message about what 'Leeds Rhinos' think of Paul McShanes talents.

With the last 20 mins to go with Wigan I thought 'it will be nice to see him get a run out now the games gone' it didn't happen. For what benefit?

May as well run out with 16 men on Friday.

16 men and two fewer substitutions than season's past.

You'll definitely find that GH was consulted and it was GH who allowed Buderus to renege on the final year of his contract, but only on the condition that a suitable replacement was provided.

Question: How many of the illustrious Magnificent Seven remain at the club?

Question: How many of the illustrious Magnificent Seven were allowed to renege on the final year of their contracts?

Question: How many of the illustrious Magnificent Seven had their contracts terminated during their final year?

Question: How many were allowed to renege on the final year of their contracts who weren't illustrious members of the Magnificent Seven?

But prior to those final two games of last season Burrow did come on as a replacement hooker for Buderus and made a regular impact. When Buderus returned after half time the usual tactic was for Burrow to revert to SH and a forward went off. With fewer replacements this year this same tactic would mean Sinfield having to take on much more heavier work.

I think Hood being injured brought about the experiment of starting Burrow at 9 which although not my preference has actually not been a failure either. Our troubles are to do with wide out defence, poor form at half back and a very poor kicking game.

I agree with you that if Sinfield is to continue at 6 then Burrow should replace McGuire at SH as he looks far sharper at present.

Having said that for the WCC I would prefer to see Sinny back to 13 with Burrow at 7 and Mags at 6 again and give McShane a go.

So... Webb, BJB, Watkins, Hardaker, Hall, McGuire, Burrow, Bailey, McShane, JP, JJB, Delaney, Sinfield with Griffin, Moore, Ablett & Hauraki. This means Leuluai & Clarkson missing out

Does anyone have any spare tickets for the South Stand? Money waiting!

Suggestions that Rob Burrow is an acceptable starting Hooker shows a real lack of understanding of the Hooking role in the modern era. A Hooker is arguably the most important position in the team. Everything starts with the Hooker.
His body language is all wrong. Its so predictable what he's going to do and he doesn't commit defenders before he passes.
For example, when scooting out of dummy half you look up towards the defensive line, drag the marker or line defender, suck them in then pass. More yards are made as the line is more stretched. He doesn't, he is never looking "up" to see whats on and who / where he should pass to. Our forwards were virtually none existent again Wigan, with the exception of Griffin & JJB. I believe this was due to no structure from dummy half when coming out of our own half, if the forwards have no confidence in the acting half they aren't going to run off him, not in a fully commited way anyway.

I didn't want to be to critical of Rob Burrow, he's an amazing strike weapon and has a key role to play in the team when used correctly.

All Cleared, no further action Lee Smith - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3309 Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 Ryan Bailey - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3313

All Cleared, no further action Lee Smith - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3309 Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 Ryan Bailey - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3313

Isn't it funny how all the bandwaggoners suddenly want tickets for the South Stand all of a sudden?

Proper bandwagoners who can't make up their mind which team they support like myself got theirs ages ago

Isn't that the case in everything ?its a case of supply and demand

I suddenly wondered whether you could suddenly want anything without it being all of a sudden.

Quote ="Frosties."Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 '" Thought he'd be cited for having a stinker.

Quote ="Frosties."Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 '" Thought he'd be cited for having a stinker.

My Wife is a season ticket holder FYI, Im a bulls fan trying to get her a ticket as a surprise. But all you lot want to do is take the p!ss.

Doubt you'll get one now bud ,but the western terrace is still available and will be mostly Leeds fans aswell if that helps.

Quote ="Frosties."All Cleared, no further action Lee Smith - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3309 Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 Ryan Bailey - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3313'" The Wigan fans will love that!

Quote ="Frosties."All Cleared, no further action Lee Smith - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3309 Weller Hauraki - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3311 Ryan Bailey - www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3313'" The Wigan fans will love that!

Wow! Some people never learn!

Best of luck to the Rhinos from a Wigan fan. 25 years since we beat Manly, I hope your guys can do the same in a game just as good.

Thankyou

We could develop that idea. If we can [ustart[/u with 16 men I reckon we'll be in with a real chance.