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| Quote ="Saddened!"I must admit I was disappointed to read this today. Both from Jon in terms of him saying it publicly and Bailey for actually doing it. I think Wilkin has a specific incident in mind because after your penultimate try the crowd around us exploded at Bailey, something to do with Makinson. Which I guess is what Wilkin in on about him squaring up to the young players and goading them. There was also supposedly something after the game with him lording it over one of the kids and showing no class, but I'll admit I was stomping through puddles outside the ground by then. It's a shame because I thought both clubs had done the sport proud.'"
If this is true, then fair enough. I thought Wilkin's comments referred to Bailey playing up to the Leeds crowd.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"If this is true, then fair enough. I thought Wilkin's comments referred to Bailey playing up to the Leeds crowd.'"
Certainly going to be an interesting day. Sporting Life's main rugby league headline is that Ryan Bailey is going to be called up to the England squad.
So does Wilkin suddenly get an injury or does MacBanana back out of selecting Bailey?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I must admit I was disappointed to read this today. Both from Jon in terms of him saying it publicly and Bailey for actually doing it. I think Wilkin has a specific incident in mind because after your penultimate try the crowd around us exploded at Bailey, something to do with Makinson. Which I guess is what Wilkin in on about him squaring up to the young players and goading them. There was also supposedly something after the game with him lording it over one of the kids and showing no class, but I'll admit I was stomping through puddles outside the ground by then. It's a shame because I thought both clubs had done the sport proud.'"
This thing about Bailey and "kids" does my fooking nut in.
There not kids. If they were kids they would having be playing for their junior teams on Saturday. They are adults playing a professional sport.
How old is Makinson? 20? 21? 22?, Bailey is only 27 isn't he? hardly an adult attacking 10 year old at the school gates.
I am not making excuses about Bailey's actions, because like others I think he needs to grow up and start showing some dignity. But pack it in with this big bully on kids lark rubbish.
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| Ablett and Bailey AND Wilkin in the England squad.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"This thing about Bailey and "kids" does my fooking nut in.
There not kids. If they were kids they would having be playing for their junior teams on Saturday. They are adults playing a professional sport.
How old is Makinson? 20? 21? 22?, Bailey is only 27 isn't he? hardly an adult attacking 10 year old at the school gates.
I am not making excuses about Bailey's actions, because like others I think he needs to grow up and start showing some dignity. But pack it in with this big bully on kids lark rubbish.'"
Makinson was 19 and in his debut season. Bailey has played for 9 years. Bailey wouldn't do it to Sia Soliola or Tony Puletua or James Graham, which I guess is what wound Wilkin up.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Certainly going to be an interesting day. Sporting Life's main rugby league headline is that Ryan Bailey is going to be called up to the England squad.
So does Wilkin suddenly get an injury or does MacBanana back out of selecting Bailey?'"
I had a chat with Bailey yesterday about all sorts. Apparently he's due a call today, so he's keeping his phone with him. He was so proud of his GF ring, it's the only one he has left and, as has been mentioned already, he, and the rest of the payers were all shocked and stunned at what they have achieved over the last few weeks.
On the subject of his "Attitude", I would point the whiners in the direction of Laughton, Howard, Skerrett, Matautia, Nickle, Sironen, McDermott (x2) and others of the same ilk. Proper props, pure PFU stalwarts. Nobody needs to know why a bad boy does the things he does. You just accept you have a bad boy prop and enjoy it.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Makinson was 19 and in his debut season. Bailey has played for 9 years. Bailey wouldn't do it to Sia Soliola or Tony Puletua or James Graham, which I guess is what wound Wilkin up.'"
Did you have the same concerns in 2003 and 2004 for Bailey when he was getting cheap shots galore from the likes of Sculthorpe?
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"On the subject of his "Attitude", I would point the whiners in the direction of Laughton, Howard, Skerrett, Matautia, Nickle, Sironen, McDermott (x2) and others of the same ilk. Proper props, pure PFU stalwarts. Nobody needs to know why a bad boy does the things he does. You just accept you have a bad boy prop and enjoy it.
IMHO obviously.'"
I've not got a problem with Bailey and the pantomime villain stuff, but he's nothing like those players you've listed. They are all players who would physically harm you, then shake your hand at the end. Bailey is kind of that in reverse.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with England. Are we back to them splitting them into Leeds and Saints groups in training and them not speaking as reportedly happened at the World Cup?
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| Let's see if Wilkin is a man of his word, if he hates Bailey so much, and wasn't just crying after losing again, he'll pull out of the squad!
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| Quote ="El Diablo"
By the way, watching the Sky coverage back yesterday, they showed a shot of Leon Pryce on the bench, which I believe was the first sighting of him at a Grand Final since 2005.'"
It's never going to get old that is it?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I must admit I was disappointed to read this today. Both from Jon in terms of him saying it publicly and Bailey for actually doing it. I think Wilkin has a specific incident in mind because after your penultimate try the crowd around us exploded at Bailey, something to do with Makinson. Which I guess is what Wilkin in on about him squaring up to the young players and goading them. There was also supposedly something after the game with him lording it over one of the kids and showing no class, but I'll admit I was stomping through puddles outside the ground by then. It's a shame because I thought both clubs had done the sport proud.
It will certainly add a spicy element to the games between the clubs next season. It could have gone rather dull with Jammer moving on to better things. But not now.'"
If that's correct and it's not about him dancing to the crowd then it's out of order from bailey.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Makinson was 19 and in his debut season. Bailey has played for 9 years. Bailey wouldn't do it to Sia Soliola or Tony Puletua or James Graham, which I guess is what wound Wilkin up.'"
Makinson stood up well. Didn't deserve to be on the losing team and was clearly upset at the end. I hope bailey wasn't taunting makinson.
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| Quote ="G1"Can anyone, Wilikin included, tell me specifically what Bailey did exactly?
Not general comments like "childish" etc but specific incidents from the game.'"
No and neither can anyone else.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I've not got a problem with Bailey and the pantomime villain stuff, but he's nothing like those players you've listed. They are all players who would physically harm you, then shake your hand at the end. Bailey is kind of that in reverse.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with England. Are we back to them splitting them into Leeds and Saints groups in training and them not speaking as reportedly happened at the World Cup?'"
Who has Bailey ever physically harmed after a game?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Who has Bailey ever physically harmed after a game?'"
Hence the 'kind of'. He's not really in the same category of tough as boots props as those mentioned is he?
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| From what I saw Bailey was overly celebrating when the game wasn't even over and was told to calm it down by a teammate, then when the rest of the team were shaking hands he was dancing and waving his arms about - not the worst thing he has ever done but he could have waited a few minutes and nothing valid would have been said
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Hence the 'kind of'. He's not really in the same category of tough as boots props as those mentioned is he?'"
No I don't think he is, he's just a wind up merchant, If an adult professional sports man can't deal with that then he has real problems, kids come home from school moaning about being called names, not pro rl players.
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You can always post your comments and apologies on behalf of Leeds for Bailey's behaviour to Jon's website.
www.jonwilkin.co.uk/
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www.jonwilkin.co.uk/
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| Quote ="Hopie"From what I saw Bailey was overly celebrating when the game wasn't even over and was told to calm it down by a teammate, then when the rest of the team were shaking hands he was dancing and waving his arms about - not the worst thing he has ever done but he could have waited a few minutes and nothing valid would have been said'"
He celebrated a Leeds try and a likely Leeds victory before the final whistle then?
A bit like James Graham celebrated after his 1st try in the GF against us the other year.
Is that it? Because if that is what gets Wilkin's tiny tears flowing goodness knows WTF he will do when those big nasty Aussie and Kiwi forwards get stuck into him. Soft bugger should be grateful he will have a proper forward in Bailey alongside him to look after him.
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Quote ="Saddened!"You can always post your comments and apologies on behalf of Leeds for Bailey's behaviour to Jon's website.
www.jonwilkin.co.uk/'"
He has his own web site? What a waste of bandwidth.
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www.jonwilkin.co.uk/'"
He has his own web site? What a waste of bandwidth.
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| Do Saints want to amend the current Sin Bin laws to include a 'naughty step' for 'childish' behaivour?
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| Quote ="Hopie"From what I saw Bailey was overly celebrating when the game wasn't even over and was told to calm it down by a teammate, then when the rest of the team were shaking hands he was dancing and waving his arms about - not the worst thing he has ever done but he could have waited a few minutes and nothing valid would have been said'"
So that's why Wilkin has run bleating to the press again?
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| According to Rogues, Jamie Foster has also criticised Ryan Bailey, calling him an idiot on local radio.
I wonder how McNamara is going to handle it. The last thing England need is the players fighting internally.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"According to Rogues, Jamie Foster has also criticised Ryan Bailey, calling him an idiot on local radio.
I wonder how McNamara is going to handle it. The last thing England need is the players fighting internally.'"
Who's childish?! I'm sure if they won, they would never dare celebrate! Next they'll be complaining that Hardaker celebrated after scoring a try in his debut season on the biggest stage in super league!
Sore losers!
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| Wilkin is the biggest child in the land, going crying to the media.
Bailey did nothing wrong. Just getting in the Loser Wilkin's head.
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