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| 28 TO WIGAN
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| Quote ="jungleman"GET THE VIOLINS OUT, POOR OLD LEEDS GET A COUPLE OF DECISIONS AGAINST THEM AND THE WORLD IS AGAINST THEM, OH DEAR. HOW MANY GAMES HAVE THEY ACTUALLY WON OVER A SEASON WITH TERRIBLE DECISIONS, FORWARD PASSES IN ABUNDANCE, KNOCK ONS, OBSTRUCTIONS, ETC.'"
Your erudition is of course astounding
When you learn to read you might notice this topic was not raised by a Leeds fan.
Mistakes should be minimised especially on what is thpe show piece game on national TV. With the VR to call on there are no excuses.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"It was earlier in the game, Carmont had made the tackle round the ankles and as soon as he released Delaney's feet he made a stamping motion that connected with the floor inches from Carmont's head. But I forgot, Leeds have never foul play in their history and only Wigan were guilty of anything in the CC Final.'"
A man trying to stand up quickly made a stamp motion? Well blow me down with a feather.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"A man trying to stand up quickly made a stamp motion? Well blow me down with a feather.'"
Straight out of the "Leeds encyclopedia of excuses for foul play". Even trying to stamp on a fellow players head doesn't raise an eye-brow in Leeds.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Straight out of the "Leeds encyclopedia of excuses for foul play". Even trying to stamp on a fellow players head doesn't raise an eye-brow in Leeds.'"
Plenty of things which never actually happened fail to raise an eye-brow in Leeds.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Plenty of things which never actually happened fail to raise an eye-brow in Leeds.'"
You have to understand that this 'Did' happen in his tiny mind. Facts are stated about Lima's dangerous tackle on Delaney, he knows it was dangerous and should have been a Leeds penalty but cant accept it.
Hence inventing a non incident to justify said dangerous tackle.
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| It's the only comeback this b#ll #nd has.
Mention incidents that actually happened then this pleb replies like Vicky pollard yeh but ....no ....but erm erm.....but what about "insert some bollox he just made up".
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| You lost. Get over it.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"You lost. Get over it.'"
Whilst we may have lost the game Leeds had a moral RL victory. We can hold our heads up high far longer than you can hold any trophy aloft.
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| Quote ="Little G"Whilst we may have lost the game Leeds had a moral RL victory. We can hold our heads up high far longer than you can hold any trophy aloft.'"
They won't understand that concept. Whilst their players are out on the pitch attempting to injure players the fans are actively wishing injury upon players.
It's interesting to note that the spear tackle by Lima upon Delaney hasn't resulted in any fans of any club wishing injury upon Mr Lima, despite it being a far more important game than other recent Wigan v Leeds games.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"It's the only comeback this b#ll #nd has.
Mention incidents that actually happened then this pleb replies like Vicky pollard yeh but ....no ....but erm erm.....but what about "insert some bollox he just made up".'"
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Plenty of things which never actually happened fail to raise an eye-brow in Leeds.'"
Quote ="Hacked Off"You have to understand that this 'Did' happen in his tiny mind. Facts are stated about Lima's dangerous tackle on Delaney, he knows it was dangerous and should have been a Leeds penalty but cant accept it.
Hence inventing a non incident to justify said dangerous tackle.'"
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.
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| Quote ="Him"They won't understand that concept. Whilst their players are out on the pitch attempting to injure players the fans are actively wishing injury upon players.
It's interesting to note that the spear tackle by Lima upon Delaney hasn't resulted in any fans of any club wishing injury upon Mr Lima, despite it being a far more important game than other recent Wigan v Leeds games.'"
Leeds tried to start 3 brawls on the pitch yesterday, 2 of which were after play had ended for the halves! Moral high ground indeed!
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| Saints ,Bulls ,and Leeds in there periods of successwere always recognised as good Rugby league teams,without a doubt,but Wigan wether true or false are only being spoken of as bending the rules ,playing not in the spirit of the game [as well as not being in the spirit of the cap.Up to now their legacy is going to be one of rule benders
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Leeds tried to start 3 brawls on the pitch yesterday, 2 of which were after play had ended for the halves! Moral high ground indeed!'"
Ah yes. Let's investigate those 3 "brawls" shall we?
Brawl #1 - end of the first half, caused by an unnecessary flop onto a Leeds player obviously succumbing to the tackle to end the half.
Brawl #2 - last couple of minutes of 2nd half. Leeds kick through, Sam Tomkins catches it and proceeds to take the p[ii[/iss out of Leeds kick chasers and then appears surprised they might be slightly annoyed by his childish antics. Had it been an amateur game Sam Tomkins would still be collecting his teeth.
Brawl #3 - last actions of 2nd half. Following drop out from Tomkins childish behaviour, play continues and at final tackle Wigan player on the floor is unnecessarily aggressive considering it's the final tackle and Wigan cannot be caught. A pathetic and unnecessary act which does nothing but to increase tensions and ultimately leads to threads like those on the VT describing Wigan as winning without dignity.
You have 2 options. You can stop and think for a second and wonder why quite so many rugby league fans dislike Wigan and think that some of them might just have a point with regard to how Wigan play.
Or you can just continue with the blind messianic belief that Wigan are pure, Christ-like warriors of virtue and the only reason anyone dislikes Wigan or Sam Tomkins is because they are good.
Sadly I think you will choose the cultist approach.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.'"
are you being serious? You think that was a deliberate attempt to stamp on his head? really? if it was im more impressed with that effort than I would have been when I thought he was trying to stamp on his head whilst upside down.
Well done Brett Delany
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.'"
Is that it? Where's the stamp? You really are a deluded mental-case!
Have you considered Wendyball? Might be more appropriate for someone with your 'sensitive' nature.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.'"
I almost thought you had a case with your accusation of stamping.
Then I watched the video
It wasn't you who went to all the trouble of recording it, converting it and then uploading it to Youtube was it, because if it was then
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.'"
The ironic thing is that you really are embarrassing yourself.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I can understand the argument against using the VR for forward passes. The angles and the way it looks is so inconsistant it would lead to even more inconsistant refereeing and just cause more problems.
I cant understand why the RFL or NRL dont approach a company like hawkeye and see what they could do. Im sure the bright engineers over there can think of something. If they can invent a system which can predict the movement of a spinning and swinging cricket ball, surely they can invent something which judges whether a ball goes forward or backwards relative to a player'"
Good idea that - frankly it'd be a piece of p*ss compared to predicting a cricket ball (hawkeye in that sense is frankly some kind of witchcraft). You could also very easily take into account the momentum rule.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziODwqHQ0Y4How embarrassing for you[/url.'"
Did you actually watch this video before posting this link?
The irony here is that you have just embarrassed yourself while trying to embarrass someone else.
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| Quote ="Him"Ah yes. Let's investigate those 3 "brawls" shall we?
Brawl #1 - end of the first half, caused by an unnecessary flop onto a Leeds player obviously succumbing to the tackle to end the half. '"
Eh? It was Bailey who flopped on to the back of Sam Tomkins, and then stood up and tried to kick off. Webb scragged Tomkins back by the collar as though he was somehow to blame and he literally hadn't lifted a finger. It was simply frustration boiling over in the Leeds side.
Quote Brawl #2 - last couple of minutes of 2nd half. Leeds kick through, Sam Tomkins catches it and proceeds to take the p[ii[/iss out of Leeds kick chasers and then appears surprised they might be slightly annoyed by his childish antics. Had it been an amateur game Sam Tomkins would still be collecting his teeth.'"
Wow, you're actually trying to justify kicking off because Sam tried to run the clock down, which is perfectly legitimate. If that winds them up so much that they need to start a fight then they probably need some sort of counselling. And which amateur club did you play for that encouraged knocking a player's teeth out??? What a nice guy you sound eh? This moral high ground you were talking about...
Quote Brawl #3 - last actions of 2nd half. Following drop out from Tomkins childish behaviour, play continues and at final tackle Wigan player on the floor is unnecessarily aggressive considering it's the final tackle and Wigan cannot be caught. A pathetic and unnecessary act which does nothing but to increase tensions and ultimately leads to threads like those on the VT describing Wigan as winning without dignity. '"
Watch it again, he makes the tackle and gets straight back up, no "unnecessary aggressiveness". The fact that you have tried to excuse 3 separate incidents in which Leeds players lost their composure and resorted to violence is absolutely pathetic. Do you actually think it's ok just because a player acted--in your opinion--childishly? There were many incidents of childishness from Leeds players yesterday, such as patting Wigan players on the head and laughing when they'd knocked on or made a mistake, and the more serious of Ryan Bailey barging into Josh Charnley in the in-goal area whilst Leeds were celebrating a try which are far better examples of trying to goad players into losing their cool. Grow up and stop trying to defend them. Moral high ground indeed.
Oh and by the way, I was actually thinking of Kylie Leuluai cowardly running in and putting the elbow into Limas back for which he got penalised. So I guess that's 4.
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| Got any more video evidence for us to look at to back up your ridiculous posts ?
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| That was supposed to be a stamp?!
Anyway, why is he still clinging to his leg?!
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| Electric Gliding Warrior - you really are embarrassing yourself very badly like a very blinkered section of Wigan fans. According to you every incident Wigan players are completely blameless and innocent. You really are incredibly pathetic. Try growing up yourself and actually take a look at the incidents without your cherry & white, Phil Clarke sponsored blinkers on. Tomkins was not "winding the clock down" that's utter bullsh[ii[/it that only the most blinkered of Wigan & Tomkins apologists would subscribe to. He was looking straight at the Leeds players as he deliberately stopped in his in goal and then jogged slowly away from them. That is incredibly childish and something that doesn't even happen in junior games. As for your comment about the amateur game well it just shows how stupid you really are if you can't actually read what I posted.
I mentioned your 2 options in my previous post and which I suspected you would take. Thanks for proving me correct. Now go back to wasting your time producing video that disproves your own argument.
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