What you have completely ignored is the fact that the coach picks the team! I'm pretty sure more than the 17 that played put their hand up to play in one of the biggest games of their lives, but that doesn't mean they all play does it! You keep gripping at straws lad!

Calderwood & Walker made a complete meal of the kick that lead to the winner, Bai made..........well we all know that one, Sinfield made a poor "tackle" on Cooke as did Ward.

Only ward out of those would/should have been spelled that day.

Does Radlinski get the same stick from Wigan fans for playing in the 2002 final injured?

Or for playing in slippers. Or so I heard.

Where did I say I was upset.....fancy wanting to express my own opinion on an internet forum etc etc

It helps in a physical contest if all the participants are fully able to make an appropriate contribution - if not one side is at a distinct disadvantage from the off.

Regardless of wether you think it affected the result it was still an act of sheer selfishness that showed very little regard/respect for any of his team mates. I bet he would not have stuck his hand up if it had been an away game at Wigan!!

Simples

Or a burning desire to put his body on the line to play in a big game with those team mates.

Nobody knew whether the ankle would hold up or not, otherwise the doctors would never have let him play. He was our main strike weapon, and if it had worked and he'd played a blinder we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's the nature of gambles. If we had the benefit of hindsight they wouldn't be gambles.

I once again remind you that he didn't pick the team. The coach will have consulted the player and medical staff and taken a calculated risk.

Hang on a minute, I wasn't looking for blame for losing a game. You asked the question, "Can someone explain how Senior lost us the game". Someone responded to you, and like you, mentioned a missed tackle, or a Bai mistake. In other words placing blame elsewhere.

I simply said, why has the fact that Senior not been able to last the game, and therefore the pressure put on to his team mates a man short, and an extremely hot day, been completely ignored? I wasn't blaming or excusing, just asking. So somewhat ironic would you not agree that the response back is to actually going into blame mode, but use other players instead.

The whole Crusaders episode only goes to show how the RFL havent reali got a clue why do we have to have such mediocraty in charge of our game atleast they didnt have to go threw with the shame of kicking Wakey out on the grounds the welsh outfit meet the criteria and Wakey dont

Shame about Keith though think he might go to Widness

Not sure it has been completely ignored per se rather than suggested that the decision to play Senior would have been a carefully calculated risk after discussion at length with medical staff, coaches etc. The worst Senior can be accused of is a desperate desire to play maybe?

Hahahaha, skit Keith.

Contender for post of the year.

Or as the rest of the rugby playing world calls it, a two year deal at Odslum ...

Yeah, don't knock it until you've tried it ... I have a most excellent England RL Suit Carrier c/o Mr Senior's sales.

And, it is actually a better product than about 90% of the similar suit carriers I have seen out in the market.

I use it on a regular basis and it's been a great purchase.

john kear on radio leeds earlier said they will be talking to keef about going there

Keith Senior will be playing in SL next season without a doubt

I personally can't blame him for wanting to prolong his career, i don't believe that it is a monetary based issue for him, it is a chance for him to set a record as the longest serving SL player who played the most games and over the longest period

I personally think that his Rhinos career came to an end 12 months too late but i fully respect what he has done for our club.

I hope that Keith can find another SL club that needs a player of his pedigree and that he can prolong his career for a couple more seasons yet

Regarding posters dissing him on these forums and on Twitter:
IMO he should be remembered as being not only a legend of the Rhinos but also of the game of RL

As I said at the time, don't worry about seeing Squeef playing in the Boxing Day friendly ... In a Wakey shirt !

You believe it was a burning desire - I believe it was a act of pure selfishness

The coach would have asked he would have said I'm OK knowing full well he wasn't - it was obvious from the warm up he wasn't right, the fact he lasted 20 minutes at the most - he was a passenger for the rest of the half and didn't play at all in the second.

at training the day before he couldn't walk let alone run. he shouldn't have offered to play and the coach shouldn't have picked him

No. Sal said that selfish Keith had made a decision to play, and by so doing had deprived his team mates of a trophy. Giving no other reason other than being less than 100 percent fit but 100 selfish.

In a counter. Other posters have opined that the decision to play Keith was not his, but the coaching staff and medical personnel in tandem.

Blame for the loss has not been aimed at anyone in particular. Bai's brainfart, Kevin's missed tackle, Mckinna's injury and even an opposition players skill have been proposed as contributing factors. But no blame. Bai scored after his mistake and Kevin was MOM but we lost. Which teams do.

Sorry Gotcha. You made an unnecessarily personal negative statement about greedy Keith and it was repudiated. Don't be backpedalling now.

Some people find it impossible to understand that in sport, in general, one team wins and the other loses and often the difference between the two can be one moments inattention, one misjudged tackle, a blink of an eye - unfortunately some can't cope with that and feel a need to blame someone, its a problem in their head that they carry right through life.

Once again you have completely lost me Gotcha, I'm not sure where the Irony is at all?

I don't think Keith lost us that final by playing like some other people do

It certainly didn't enhance our chances - that is for sure