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| first off he doesnt want to put pressure on his team mates but is more than happy to do it to a super league team. second our fans are a million times more vocal and creative with the chants than aussies. he will just get mullered week in week out if he came over here.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"first off he doesnt want to put pressure on his team mates but is more than happy to do it to a super league team. second our fans are a million times more vocal and creative with the chants than aussies. he will just get mullered week in week out if he came over here.'"
Your points granted but the Aussie media is far worse than ours, plus the attention the media give RL in Oz is 10x that SL gets in the UK. He'll get more on the pitch but at least he'll be able to live a normal life off it
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| He's surely incur the wrath of the opposing fans.
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| The Aussie media is far worse than ours??? Have you never been to a newsagent in England then? There is a reason that everyone says the British tabloid media is about as bad as it gets.
Monaghan gets more media attention in Aus as league is a bigger sport, but if it were a SL player the British tabloids would have given it massive coverage.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"uk.reuters.com/article/idUKSGE6A809K20101109
Monaghan to Super League. We have enough outside backs as it is so I should imagine we wouldn't be interested.'"
We have enough outside backs yes, but do we have one as good as him?
That should be the question not only Leeds should ask themselves, but other clubs also. Is there any club in Super League with a better centre than him currently?
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Your points granted but the Aussie media is far worse than ours, plus the attention the media give RL in Oz is 10x that SL gets in the UK. He'll get more on the pitch but at least he'll be able to live a normal life off it'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"We have enough outside backs yes, but do we have one as good as him?
That should be the question not only Leeds should ask themselves, but other clubs also. Is there any club in Super League with a better centre than him currently?'"
Probably not no.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Probably not no.'"
What, Leeds don't have one as good? or rest of Super League not a centre as good?
Personlly I don't think there is a centre as good as him in super league. Therefore IMO =#FF0040ANY club who has the space in the cap and quota space available, and has a will to be the best, should be fighting each other out to get this guy.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What, Leeds don't have one as good? or rest of Super League not a centre as good?
Personlly I don't think there is a centre as good as him in super league. Therefore IMO =#FF0040ANY club who has the space in the cap and quota space available, and has a will to be the best, should be fighting each other out to get this guy.'"
Agreed, world class three-quarters are rarely available. Don't really care about his alcohol fuelled antics, his resignation speech shows how much he regrets his actions. Get him signed up GH
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| Could someone give us the weekly update on our quota position please
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| Quote ="rich86"Could someone give us the weekly update on our quota position please'"
At the moment we have Webb ,Ali,Kylie,Cross,Buderus,Delaney and we have signed Hauraki.
Obviously how the rule stands some of the above are exempt but i doubt we could sign Monaghan.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"At the moment we have Webb ,Ali,Kylie,Cross,Buderus,Delaney and we have signed Hauraki.
Obviously how the rule stands some of the above are exempt but i doubt we could sign Monaghan.'"
Hauraki not confirmed yet. But if we miss out on a player like Monaghan because we signed Hauraki, it only highlights further how ridiculous that signing was.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Hauraki not confirmed yet. But if we miss out on a player like Monaghan because we signed Hauraki, it only highlights further how ridiculous that signing was.'"
IF the Hauraki deal is confirmed and was done at least 3 weeks ago (i was told) then how does that qualify to us missing out on "Dog Bollox"?
Lassie has only just become available so you can hardly say that we "missed out" because we'd already signed someone else.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"IF the Hauraki deal is confirmed and was done at least 3 weeks ago (i was told) then how does that qualify to us missing out on "Dog Bollox"?
Lassie has only just become available so you can hardly say that we "missed out" because we'd already signed someone else.'"
We would have missed out because there was simply no need to sign him in the first place, it's as simple as that.
If we signed him 3 weeks ago, then what is the point in the cloak and daggers secrecy? Why is it not announced? Not that I am disputing he is signed, but just smacks of been farcical.
Like I said yesterday, if you are going to sign overseas players then sign one that puts bums on seats, and actually strengthens the team. Not one just for improving numbers.
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| I think we should Sign him because the Fella is a Quality Centre and would run through afew Defenses.
I've never heard a bloke get so much Stick for getting Smashed and Applying Lipstick
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| Quote ="Gotcha"We would have missed out because there was simply no need to sign him in the first place, it's as simple as that.
If we signed him 3 weeks ago, then what is the point in the cloak and daggers secrecy? Why is it not announced? Not that I am disputing he is signed, but just smacks of been farcical.
Like I said yesterday, if you are going to sign overseas players then sign one that puts bums on seats, and actually strengthens the team. Not one just for improving numbers.'"
In your opinion and that's fair enough but did Poching ,Glanville and Furner put bums on seats?
Why does it smack of farcical if it wasn't announced 3wks ago?
Who's to say he won't improve or strengthen the team he has'nt even played a game yet.
It may work out he may not i personally think he'll have the same kind of impact Poching had and IF we have missed out on Lassie it'll be because we either don't have a crystal ball ,He wasn't wanted or he just prefers to go elswhere not because we signed someone 3 wks ago who you don't rate.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Not that I am disputing he is signed, but just smacks of been farcical.'"
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| I dont think the quota would be an issue in signing Monaghan since as I understand it, the quota for 2011 is 5 and Leeds currently have 3 (Delaney, Buderus and Cross) if we sign Hauraki that would be 4 so would still have space for Monaghan. The salary cap is a different issue though.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I dont think the quota would be an issue in signing Monaghan since as I understand it, the quota for 2011 is 5 and Leeds currently have 3 (Delaney, Buderus and Cross) if we sign Hauraki that would be 4 so would still have space for Monaghan. The salary cap is a different issue though.'"
Poor old TVOC would go into meltdown!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"In your opinion and that's fair enough but did Poching ,Glanville and Furner put bums on seats?
Why does it smack of farcical if it wasn't announced 3wks ago?
Who's to say he won't improve or strengthen the team he has'nt even played a game yet.
It may work out he may not i personally think he'll have the same kind of impact Poching had and IF we have missed out on Lassie it'll be because we either don't have a crystal ball ,He wasn't wanted or he just prefers to go elswhere not because we signed someone 3 wks ago who you don't rate.'"
I think you are confusing my posting. I made my opinion clear yesterday.
I am not saying I don't rate him at all. I am saying it is a signing we did not need, he could turn out very good and good luck to him. What I am dissagreeing with you on here, is that as it is a signing we did not need then the space would have been available for a real quality player like Monaghan.
I accept your Poching example, but to class Hauraki in the same breath as Furner and Glanville is just scraping the barrell. To add to the fact that the quota rules are different to when Glanville and Furner played for us.
When someone comes available who is not only better than your current players in that position but better than anyone else in the competition there, then you can only question the management of the club if we don't have the resources (quota, cap space) to at least compete for him. Of course that does not mean to say you would still get him with competition, and fully understandable.
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| Quote ="Wheels"But what if you signed Monaghan, and then three weeks later Benji Marshall got caught fingering a budgie?'"
Good point, but not a similar scenario.
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| Quote ="Wheels"But what if you signed Monaghan, and then three weeks later Benji Marshall got caught fingering a budgie?'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What, Leeds don't have one as good? or rest of Super League not a centre as good?
Personlly I don't think there is a centre as good as him in super league. Therefore IMO =#FF0040ANY club who has the space in the cap and quota space available, and has a will to be the best, should be fighting each other out to get this guy.'"
sorry pal, i agree there is probably not a better centre in sl. this is not the kind of signing gh would make imo. i can only guess but taking into account other teams squads i would think with leeds shedding donald, eastwood, and diskin(at least 300k of cap space) and ambler out on loan(with only cross coming in) leeds would have more cap space than wigan, wire and saints. so if we wanted him we must be the front runner and the biggest/best club with the cash to do it?
he will probably end up at bradford or in france.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"so if we wanted him we must be the front runner and the biggest/best club with the cash to do it?'"
Depends what he's looking for in a future employer - wouldn't be surprised to see him end up at Quins simply based on location.
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