Completely disagree. We have won it 4 times, 3 on the spin...we have nothing left to prove.

Why are you laughing at your own s[ih[/iit joke?

It wasn't a joke it was a statement, i merely placed an amusing emoticon at the end of it, you see the pressure is already telling on you. Here's another little emoticon for you

Feeble attempt at reverse psychology. You are the ones under pressure. Won the league with time to spare and expected to walk the GF having had time to rest in between CC and home advantage and club call, yet fell at the first plus the wobble against KR has you all worrying.

<: Odemwingie mode on :> I think you’ll find that Wigan beat Leeds in the most important games this year. If we didn’t beat you in the reguler rounds we wouldn’t be league leaders. Wigan are the bestest this season for beating Leeds then! <: Odemwingie mode off :>

We have nothing to lose, your the holders of the trophy so have everything to lose.

A big thanks to Saints , could easily have been the form team in the competition , instead its Wigan . Nice one

You have nothing to lose...........how about the SL GF? If we were at full strength and had finished above you in the league having had time to rest for the CC then yes we would be. You have finished top of the league, lost to us and struggled against KR for a time. You have been the bridesmaids for a long while. Nobody expects us to beat you twice in a row given our missing personell. I would say it's definatley all pressure on Wigan, just as it has been the last 2 weeks, and has shown in your teams performances.

Im sure fans from any team will admit that if you finish top of the league then the pressure is on to finish the job by winning/getting to the GF

If the pressure wasn't there why do Sky constantly make people aware of the fact that Saints are the only team to finish top of the league and not make the GF!

Just been having a quick look on their board, and some of the window lickers are predicting a pies/Hudds Final!



Windowlene.....[i"helping the bewildered make it through the day!"[/i

There is only one valid interpretation of a statement proclaiming injuries being [i"part and parcel of the season and other clubs will go through this too HOPEFULLY"[/i just like there's only one interpretation of a statement proclaiming that a Wigan player intentionally caused an injury to McGuire in back play.



I give the Wigan players credit for being disgusted at McClennan's crass insinuation that one of them intentionally caused McGuire's injury in back play.

Has McClennan apologised for that fabrication yet?



But not disappointed in their own coach's comments on wishing injuries to players of other teams hopefully, or accusing a player of another club of intentionally causing an injury.

Hardly 'Gods of Rugby' are they?

More like the opinions of 'Big Daft Lads'

indeed there is. you could quote to the context to make a little easier, but your cherry picked sentence is also fine, it also makes clear than Mclennan wishes no injury on anyone but understands they are part and parcel of the season. Thank you for proving my point for me.

if you find a statement which says that id be interested to read that

Thats nice, an odd thing to say considering thats not what we were talking about. We were talking about the Wigan players reaction to Mcguire not Mclennan. But nice for you all the same
can you find a statement where he says they caused Mcguires injury? if not you really need to apologise, you wouldnt want to look like a huge hypocrit would you?



they may, had these things ever happened, they havent so we dont yet know do we?

they are as much 'gods of rugby' as me, you, postman pat, fireman sam, Darren Lockyer, Wally Lewis, PC Reg Hollis or anyone else really considering it was made up by a bitter Wigan fan to help him justify his unprofessional Schadenfreude.

And as they were made up, im making up its Burgess and Diskin and they fly the world in magical ford escort listen to an audio book of Jeeves and Wooster read by Stephen Fry doling out karmic justice to rugby league players

You've got to be kidding, sunshine.

Wigan finished top, wigan were favourites, wigan have fallen at this hurdle 3 years running, wigan haven't won a title in 12 years.

Going to be a good one I hope.

Wigan are the better side, but Leeds are proven champions with that ability to raise their game when it counts.

Can't wait.

I can't believe this 'no all the pressure is on', 'no its not its on you'.
I think if at this stage if you don't feel a modicum of pressure then you aren't human. Its how you deal with the pressure, Leeds in the past have shown they can handle it, while Wigan have yet to do so. Thise season is their best chance in many a year.

This will be a very difficult game - with our two best players against the most consistent side in the competition at full strength.

I would be amazed if we get through, but this team constantly amazes you - fingers crossed

Which part of McClennan's statement - [i"It's just the way it goes and we're not going to use injuries as an excuse for our position in the table. It's part and parcel of the season and other clubs will go through this too hopefully"[/i also says he wishes no injury on anyone?



[url=http://www.bettingpress.com/category/Rugby/Leeds-Rhinos-stand-off-Danny-McGuire-to-miss-rest-of-play-offs-Leeds-Rhinos-stand-off-Danny-McGuire-to-miss-rest-of-Super-League-play-offs-201009130017/"McClennan said: “Danny has done knee ligament damage to his knee after he we was fouled off the ball. We will just have to wait and find out how bad it really is.”[/url

[url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/Rhinos-wait-on-McGuire-news.6527834.jp"We need to find out what happened. He's been felled off the ball and we're unsure what's happened there. The camera didn't stay on him long enough."[/url



I was talking about Wigan's players possible reaction to McClennan's crass statement that a Wigan player was responsible for McGuire's injury off the ball in back play, and you responded to that.

Please try and keep up





They both happened alrighty. McClennan was out of order and has yet to apologise for making either of those disgustingly crass and insensitive statements.

all of it. Its words, its context, everything.

nope, no mention of intent or injury there. A simple statement of fact really and a request for investigation.
no, this is the quote you responded to
its written above and everything. Please try and keep up



you mean the quotes you cant provide?

Why do you take McClennans words favourably yet Clarke's unfavourably other than bias or plain old hypocrisy?

Or the quote you delibetately omitted in your response?

"McClennan said: [i“Danny has done knee ligament damage to his knee after he we was fouled off the ball. We will just have to wait and find out how bad it really is.”[/i

Was McGuire fouled off the ball? NO

Has McClennan apologised for his fabrication above? NO

What Clarke said is all words. All of it. It's context. Everything.

its not taking anything 'favourably' if there was a way of phrasing what Clarke said which i wouldnt find offensive i would be happy to accept it could simple be poorly worded, like Mclennans. But there is no way of phrasing what Clarke has said which i would find palatable.

nope, no mention of intent again. Are you ready to apologise for your fabrication
im not offended by someone mistaking Mcguires collision with Carmont as a foul by Carmont. Its a little bit of nothing really

you have even managed to get this wrong



are we at the part where you and Era of the biff confess to simply trolling yet, or do i get to play with you some more?

Clarke is supposed to independent - McClennan is not - simple really?

You cannot expect the impartiality from McClennan you should demand of Clarke?