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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"You didn't see it did you Olive.
Your thoughts and opinions are therefore rendered irrelevant.
Trot on.'"
Did you?
What exactly happened?
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| its been said time and again.
during the cup game a video camera was trained on the corner yet no action was taken.
secondly make that area a family stand.
if hull wanted to stop it they could. thay choose to ignore it
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| Quote ="tad rhino"its been said time and again.
during the cup game a video camera was trained on the corner yet no action was taken.
secondly make that area a family stand.
if hull wanted to stop it they could. thay choose to ignore it'"
Really, should we move families out of the West and South stand and force them to sit in the East Stand? A place they obviously don't want to sit.
The actual only practical solution that I have ever heard is to simply shut that part of the stand, thus moving the problem further away.
By the way.... would you mind shutting the South Stand down for me next time I visit Headingley? Because there are sections of that are as bad as our Chav Corner.
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| so there is a simple solution then.
shame your club can't think like you, condoning violence
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| Quote ="tad rhino"so there is a simple solution then.
shame your club can't think like you, condoning violence'"
Oh dear god.
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Quote ="Bal"I've asked Leeds fans before - come up with a practical solution to chav corner and I'm sure we will take it - got one?
Should we give them a badge when they enter the ground?
Words are cheap.'"
Let me see ... this is tough ... don't know whats been done ...
I know, close the section of seats closest to the away stand, make the section next to it Season Ticket holders in allocated seats so everyone in that section would be more responsible than the walk-up chavs, and if they weren't at least they would be easily identifiable and therefore easily banned...
In fact, why am I bothering, there is a blueprint here >>> www.therhinos.co.uk/news/14464.php
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Quote ="Bal"I've asked Leeds fans before - come up with a practical solution to chav corner and I'm sure we will take it - got one?
Should we give them a badge when they enter the ground?
Words are cheap.'"
Let me see ... this is tough ... don't know whats been done ...
I know, close the section of seats closest to the away stand, make the section next to it Season Ticket holders in allocated seats so everyone in that section would be more responsible than the walk-up chavs, and if they weren't at least they would be easily identifiable and therefore easily banned...
In fact, why am I bothering, there is a blueprint here >>> www.therhinos.co.uk/news/14464.php
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| Quote ="Bal"Oh dear god.'"
why else would they do nothing? my mates gf is a season ticket holder and sits near there.
in here words the corner is "disgusting and an embarressment". even she can't understand why hull do nothing.
maybe its because they all signed a piece of paper saying they would be good boys
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"Let me see ... this is tough ... don't know whats been done ...
I know, close the section of seats closest to the away stand,
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Already done. Did the large piece of netting escape your notice? How much further away would you like them? Its a stadium, not a county.
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Hate to say it, but its been established that many of them are season ticket holders and are there week in week out. So not sure how that would solve the problem. We have one of the best CCTV systems in the league. There easily identifiable.
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and if they weren't at least they would be easily identifiable and therefore easily banned...
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Actually, apart from upsetting you lot with those 'orrble Rugby songs which are no worst than what the South Stand come out with, they rarely do anything that would consitute a ban. And on the rare occasion that they have, like yesterday they have been ejected and assumedly banned.
The problem is there is no practical solution to "chav corner" other than either closure of the area, which only moves the problem or indiscriminately labelling people.
BTW. Sections of the South Stand upset me. In fact I was assaulted in Headlingley a few years ago by a SSer.. Would you kindly mind closing down part of your stadium for me? Cheers.
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| Close that section would be the obvious sloution but then the problem may move elsewhere in the stadium.
Isn't it the case that the club are quite happy for them to congregate there well away from the vast majority of Hull fans who, by and large like most league fans, are basically decent.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn" I didn't see the alleged attack on Donald'"
Enough said, your contribution is therefore irrelevant, unless you actively support fans entering the field of play and accosting players?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Close that section would be the obvious sloution but then the problem may move elsewhere in the stadium.
Isn't it the case that the club are quite happy for them to congregate there well away from the vast majority of Hull fans who, by and large like most league fans, are basically decent.'"
To be fair. Common mistake, which has been made by several people on this thread already is that its not actually Hull FC's decision to make. It's SMC.
Yes, you are right, Hull FC are, by the vast majority decent fans. Glad somebody on here has had the decency to address that.
I can't imagine that the club are happy with some of the stuff that comes out of chav corner, like I'm sure Leeds are not always happy with South Stand (and us with 3d a few years ago) - but short of victimising whole sections of the stadium for the actions of a minority, there is little too do about it imo.
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| Quote ="G1"Enough said, your contribution is therefore irrelevant, [uunless you actively support fans entering the field of play and accosting players[/u?'"
Yeah, I'm sure that's what he was saying.
So did you see it? I'm intrested to know what happened.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"its been said time and again.
during the cup game a video camera was trained on the corner yet no action was taken.
secondly make that area a family stand.
if hull wanted to stop it they could. thay choose to ignore it'"
You couldn't be further from the truth
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| Quote ="Bal"I can't imagine that the club are happy with some of the stuff that comes out of chav corner, like I'm sure Leeds are not always happy with South Stand (and us with 3d a few years ago) - but short of victimising whole sections of the stadium for the actions of a minority, there is little too do about it imo.'"
OK, do nothing about it. Leave it as it is.
But I choose not to subject myself to that and I keep my disposable income squarely in my pocket when it comes to Hull away. Until or unless you do decide to do something about it myself, and many other potential visiting fans, will stay away.
That hurts your club. And it's your club as much, if not more, than the moron's in chav corner.
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| Quote ="G1"OK, do nothing about it. Leave it as it is.
But I choose not to subject myself to that and I keep my disposable income squarely in my pocket when it comes to Hull away. Until or unless you do decide to do something about it myself, and many other potential visiting fans, will stay away.
That hurts your club. And it's your club as much, if not more, than the moron's in chav corner.'"
Crowds are at record highs at the KC stadium.
Also, its not [umy[/u problem. Its a decision for SMC. Write to them and express your concerns if you feel that strongly about it.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"You couldn't be further from the truth'"
rubbish,absolute rubbish. they can do anything they wanted. as has been said shut that corner down. have more stewards and police there. prosecute people they catch on cctv throwing missiles.
it's not a new thing, it's been happening since you moved there.
hull choose to do nothing
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| Quote ="Bal"Crowds are at record highs at the KC stadium.
Also, its not [umy[/u problem. Its a decision for SMC. Write to them and express your concerns if you feel that strongly about it.'"
It's not my problem either. Hull is simply not a nice experience for away fans. If they want my money change it. If they don't, they won't get it. Given that it's not so long since your club almost went belly up and gateshead had to be sacrificed to spare you I am surprised you would be so blase.
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| Quote ="Bal"Already done. Did the large piece of netting escape your notice? How much further away would you like them? Its a stadium, not a county'"
May I suggest it would be sensible to move them as far away from the away end as possible. If they were at the other end of the ground would the majority of your support not be capable of policing them given they are spotty, scraggy scrotes?
Quote ="Bal"Hate to say it, but its been established that many of them are season ticket holders and are there week in week out. So not sure how that would solve the problem. We have one of the best CCTV systems in the league. There easily identifiable.'"
So the club does know who they are? If they are season ticket holders they can be banned, the T&C's on season tickets give the club carte blanche on this. This sets an example and will hurt the scrotes in the pocket. Should they re-enter the KC then the club has the full weight of the law behind them. It is the club that has to take the lead with zero tolerence, just like Leeds did on the shirts off issue I referred you to.
Quote ="Bal"Actually, apart from upsetting you lot with those 'orrble Rugby songs which are no worst than what the South Stand come out with, they rarely do anything that would consitute a ban. And on the rare occasion that they have, like yesterday they have been ejected and assumedly banned.'"
Zero tolerence can easily address this, I'll give you another example, Leeds United have been known to have a few problems with crowd control they will remove season tickets for a case of persistant standing, abusive gestures, foul and abusive chanting, failure to comply with stewards and even smoking in toilets. The message soon gets through.
Quote ="Bal"The problem is there is no practical solution to "chav corner" other than either closure of the area, which only moves the problem or indiscriminately labelling people.'"
There is, the will to tackle it head on remains the issue.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"rubbish,absolute rubbish. they can do anything they wanted. as has been said shut that corner down. have more stewards and police there. prosecute people they catch on cctv throwing missiles.
it's not a new thing, it's been happening since you moved there.
hull choose to do nothing'"
Oh god. Please do some research before posting for everybody's sake. Its really frustrating.
CCTV was used for the missile throwing incident. The first one of course been thrown by a Leeds fan on that occasion.
Hull FC and SMC have started an immediate investigation into yesterdays minor incidents.
Incidentally, when I was assulted at Headlinley a few years ago (as previously mentioned) - nothing was done and two stewards saw it.
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| Quote ="Bal"Really, should we move families out of the West and South stand and force them to sit in the East Stand? A place they obviously don't want to sit.
The actual only practical solution that I have ever heard is to simply shut that part of the stand, thus moving the problem further away.
By the way.... would you mind shutting the South Stand down for me next time I visit Headingley? Because there are sections of that are as bad as our Chav Corner.'"
The most practical solution is to wait until chanv corner is full during a game.
Chuck a few grenades and kill them all.
Problem solved.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"eusa_clap.gif
its easy to solve. the fact is they CHOOSE not to'"
Check your pms and you'll find you are so very wrong
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| I come from an era when you could walk on the pitch at the end of a match and talk to players, I remember after a JP trophy game against Wigan at Headingley talking to Roy Dickinson, as he chatted to supporters. It's a shame you can't do that anymore because there are so many t@ts up for having a pop.
I once went to Twikkers to watch the Middlesex Sevens (I was invited - it was all day beer - WTF), and the day was almost ruined by the number of idiots who ran on the pitch, mostly in fancy dress, towards the end of the day as the ale had flowed. The stewards, quite literaly, resorted to beating the $h1 out people as their patience wore off.
I'm sick of people moaning about the reduction in "personal freedoms" we seem to have, when the fact is for things like rugby, we've lost the ability to walk on the pitch after a match and talk to players becuase we can't control ourselves. I always thought the great thing about rugby was that your team could lose, and you could be hacked off, but that you could realise that it had nothing to do with the opposing supporters (who have every right to be happy) and that all the players deserve your respect.
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Quote ="G1"It's not my problem either. Hull is simply not a nice experience for away fans. If they want my money change it. If they don't, they won't get it. Given that it's not so long since your club almost went belly up and gateshead had to be sacrificed to spare you I am surprised you would be so blase.'"
Hull are financially more secure than any other club in the league with the exception of Leeds. I'm not worried about that.
We have had lots of posts on our forum from away fans over the years we have been at KC commenting on how good an experience it is for away fans. You are entitled to your opinion. I know many Leeds fans enjoyed their visit yesterday and there was good banter outside the ground again.
I agree, its not your problem. If you feel upset, write to SMC or one of the Hull supporter forum groups and ask them to address it for you.
Here are the details
Stadium Management Company Ltd
The Kingston Communications Stadium
The Circle, Walton Street, Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 6HU
T: 01482 504600
F: 01482 304882
E: info@kcstadium.co.uk
Or FC Voices
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Quote ="G1"It's not my problem either. Hull is simply not a nice experience for away fans. If they want my money change it. If they don't, they won't get it. Given that it's not so long since your club almost went belly up and gateshead had to be sacrificed to spare you I am surprised you would be so blase.'"
Hull are financially more secure than any other club in the league with the exception of Leeds. I'm not worried about that.
We have had lots of posts on our forum from away fans over the years we have been at KC commenting on how good an experience it is for away fans. You are entitled to your opinion. I know many Leeds fans enjoyed their visit yesterday and there was good banter outside the ground again.
I agree, its not your problem. If you feel upset, write to SMC or one of the Hull supporter forum groups and ask them to address it for you.
Here are the details
Stadium Management Company Ltd
The Kingston Communications Stadium
The Circle, Walton Street, Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 6HU
T: 01482 504600
F: 01482 304882
E: info@kcstadium.co.uk
Or FC Voices
FC VOICES
Contact Us
Email: fcvoices@hullfc.com
Telephone: 07527 965276
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Check your pms and you'll find you are so very wrong'"
i have replied but i still think its easy to sort out if the club choose to
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