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| I think of our stand-in options at prop, Kirke is probably the man with the tools to do a job up front in the big matches. He's never been known to let anyone down, and while he's not a specialist prop he can certainly biff the ball up the middle as well as most. Ambler will also no doubt get some gamer time, and I think next weeks match is massive for him, assuming he plays, to have the game of his life and make his claim for a Wembley place.
Losing 2 grand final winning props in a week is bad news, and hardly ideal build up, but injuries are part and parcel of the game, and others will now have to step up.
It is personally obviously devastating for the lads involved. Burgess I'm sure will have more chances to play in big finals. I hope JP will too.
Anyone else think that after last year's showing Sinfield is the natural choice to skipper England this year?
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| If ever a player deserved a Wembley cup final, it's Peacock.
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| kirke looks a very big strong lad with plenty of pace, interesting how he'll do
Sinfield for england captain? Not sure, doesn't seem the same player at 13 for england although as you rigtly point out was excellent at 9, whether he should captain at 9 i don't know.
moz must be favourite, getting on but still has global respect.
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| Absolutely gutted for the bloke he deserved his day at Wembley too
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| Just when we were all coming to terms with Burgess' horific injury, then along comes this bombshell
Totally gutted for JP as he's missing out on his dream of playing at Wembley, when players reach the back end of their careers you never know if he'll get another chance to play there
He will be sadly missed as he's a main "go forward" player, and is a leader of men.
JP is also that calibre of player that has the ability and sheer will to win at all costs to be able to pull off that vital game winning play as seen in our CC wins against Wigan and Saints in earlier rounds
But cometh the hour, cometh the man.....Someone will now have to stand up and seize their chances, Im sure they will too
The War cry from here on in is "lets do it for JP and Biff"
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| Absolutely gutted for JP and the Rhinos. He'll be a huge loss.
As has been said, Eastwood will probably revert to prop from the bench and I expect people like Lauititi, Delaney, Ablett and JJB to put in more work to cover for JP being absent.
I guess for Wembley, barring no more injuries, a pack of;
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Bench;
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Kirke
Lauititi
Tough on Clarkson I know......Any thoughts on the above?
I know a few posters want Clarkson in (and on merit he may be worth a spot!) and to do this I suppose you could play Clarkson at second row, drop JJB to the bench and then drop Eastwood(?).......
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| Please Bluey not Amor!
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| Terrible news for JP in particular. However we have a strong squad with several different options and we have the character for the other players to step up to the plate.
My main concern now is that we cannot afford another key man out injured so I would rest DMcG to be sure he is ok for Wembley. We should be able to beat Catalan without him but would struggle to win the Cup if he were also out injured.
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| Time for some of the Ambler nectar.
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| Terrible news for JP in particular. However we have a strong squad with several different options and we have the character for the other players to step up to the plate.
My main concern now is that we cannot afford another key man out injured so I would rest DMcG to be sure he is ok for Wembley. We should be able to beat Catalan without him but would struggle to win the Cup if he were also out injured.
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| Quote ="rhinoholic"Please Bluey not Amor!'"
No danger of that, he's struggled to make the Whitehaven team at times this year.
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| I see Mr Gledhill is gloating nicely on Facebook bless him
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| Gutted for him, a player I have always respected and its a real shame he is going to miss his big day and the rest of the season. Losing 2 props would really mess up most teams seasons and it would be a shame if it derails yours just when you are running into some form.
Regards England I am not too concerned I actually hoped he would step down after the World Cup. He brings great leadership to the team but i fear at that level he was starting to run on tired legs. We need a next generation to come through and now we have no excuses for not doing so. Step forward Sam Burgess to replace him.
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| Quote ="A Mão do Deus"Time for some of the Ambler nectar.'"
He has looked the part when given the chance this season
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| It a shame peacock will miss the challenge cup final, it's not nice for anyone to miss the final but players like peacock deserve to play in finals as they put all the hard work in everyweek.
It's a long time to be out for a prop of his age but if anyone can come back from a serious injury its someone like peacock.
Great player and one of my fave players, loved the way he knocked $hit out of willie mason when mason floored fielden.
Gutted for him.
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| Big blow. Hopefully his replacement will have to really step up, as will the other 12 men on the field
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| As a Wire fan, the match-up between Moz and JP was one of the things I was really looking forward to at Wembley. Gutted that a real hero of the game misses this match and best wishes to him for a full and speedy recovery.
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| Gutted by this news! Gutted for jp! My first thought if I'm honest is that our season is fooked! But I know this team finds a way to win whoever is missing!
Come on rhinos!
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| Gutted... like a kipper.
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| Hammer blow.
But let's get one ting straight. Adversity brings the best out of the current leeds team.
We can still win the double without him.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Gutted by this news! Gutted for jp! My first thought if I'm honest is that our season is fooked! But I know this team finds a way to win whoever is missing!
Come on rhinos!'"
My thoughts exactly. We have just lost our best forward, and whilst I know that it is a 17 man game, loosing such an inspirational leader means we are going to struggle in this Cup Final. If any guy deserved to grace the pitch at Wembley it's JP, and I am gutted for him.
6 to 8 months out is a long time for a prop of Jamie's age, and even if the reconstructive surgery is 100 percent successful, given the hammer his body has taken during his career, it is a massive ask to expect JP to get back up to his current standard.
The only positive I can see is the superb team spirit in the squad. Will that be enough to carry the remaining squad through the Cup Final and on to Old Trafford?
Gawd knows.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"I see Mr Gledhill is gloating nicely on Facebook bless him
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Why what has the fat tw*t been saying.
It is very heatening to hear the Wire fans singing JP`s praise and wishing him all the very best. True fans are like that. Then you get the scum like Gledhill. Even without knowing what he has said is getting me mad. Hopefully I will bump into him one day
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| That mad I can`t even spell heartening!!
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| Gutted for him - he deserves a game at Wembley and also another cup final.
England will miss him in the four nations too.
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| Providing we dont get any more devestating news like this, my team for wembley would be:
Webb
Smith
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
Kylie
Buderus
Bailey
JJB
Clarkson
Sir Kevin
Diskin
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Ambler
That wont be the team Bluey picks but it would my team.
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