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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"He's finished more grand finals than your entire squad.'"
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| If our defence performs up to our usual standards, then I think we may just edge this one. We have the speed and guile in attack to trouble Wigan from anywhere on the pitch, and I reckon it's going to be very close.
Sinny will need to have his kicking boots on though, but hopefully we'll just have our noses in front at full time by 4 points or so.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"He's finished more grand finals than your entire squad.'"
Not true, however I see you don't disagree with my statement.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"He's finished more grand finals than your entire squad.
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If only you'd have added 'while at Wigan' you'd have been on to a monster.
Ali Lauitiiti - 5
Wigan's current squad:
Paul Deacon - 6
Stuart Fielden - 6
Martin Gleeson - 1
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| Quote ="tvoc"If only you'd have added 'while at Wigan' you'd have been on to a monster.
Ali Lauitiiti - 5
Wigan's current squad:
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Stuart Fielden - 6
Martin Gleeson - 1
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True but him being a Wigan fan that's how I meant it.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Good. He never seems to finish games.'"
He's usually wrapped games up well before the end so takes a breather. Like his stint in the 2007 grand Final. Did you watch that......as a neutral obviously?
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Peacock and Lauitiiti Back
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/11037.php
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4 Keith Senior
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8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12 Ali Lauitiiti
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Matt Diskin
15 Greg Eastwood
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
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www.therhinos.co.uk/news/11037.php
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3 Brett Delaney
4 Keith Senior
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12 Ali Lauitiiti
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Matt Diskin
15 Greg Eastwood
16 Ryan Bailey
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www.therhinos.co.uk/news/11037.php
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3 Brett Delaney
4 Keith Senior
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12 Ali Lauitiiti
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Matt Diskin
15 Greg Eastwood
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Carl Ablett
20 Jay Pitts
27 Chris Clarkson
28 Lee Smith'"
I'd be very surprised to see Peacock back.
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www.therhinos.co.uk/news/11037.php
2 Scott Donald
3 Brett Delaney
4 Keith Senior
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Jamie Jones-Buchanan
12 Ali Lauitiiti
13 Kevin Sinfield
14 Matt Diskin
15 Greg Eastwood
16 Ryan Bailey
17 Ian Kirke
18 Carl Ablett
20 Jay Pitts
27 Chris Clarkson
28 Lee Smith'"
I'd be very surprised to see Peacock back.
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| How can Peacock be fit?, thought he was out for another 4 weeks?
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| I dunno wt to think about JP been back - Mind games? He was meant to be out for 4-6 weeks - would be a miracle if fit imo.
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Smith
Donald
Delaney
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McGuire
Sinfield
Kylie
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Kirke
JJB
Diskin
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Very strong 17. Even if one of : JP, Ali, JJB, Kirke (the possible doubts) don't make it im confident Pitts will step in and do a good job like he did against Dulls.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"I dunno wt to think about JP been back - Mind games? He was meant to be out for 4-6 weeks - would be a miracle if fit imo.'"
What a bizarre comment to make.
Fortunately your opinion means diddly squat unless you're on the Leeds medical staff.
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| Quote ="tvoc"What a bizarre comment to make.
Fortunately your opinion means diddly squat unless you're on the Leeds medical staff.'"
What a silly comment to make.
Fortunately everyone's opinion on this forum means diddly squat as none of us are in the Leeds coaching staff - Does that mean I and everyone else should no longer express their opinion?
From the Guardian [iThe Rhinos issued a statement confirming that the 32-year-old will not need surgery because the ligaments were strained rather than ruptured, but their head of physiotherapy, Meirion Jones, said he would be out for four to six weeks.
Even on the most optimistic recovery schedule, that would deny Peacock the chance to prove his fitness to McNamara before he names his team to face France on 1 June.[/i
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| Your worthless opinion that it would need 'a miracle' for Peacock to be fit (after he has been named in the squad for Saturday) is the bizarre part.
It wouldn't need a miracle so much as a quicker than originally anticipated recovery.
That tends to happen much more frequently than miracles do.
Donald two weeks ago was said by the same medical staff at Leeds to be four weeks away from a return, he played last Sunday - Another miracle?
Eastwood also returned earlier than anticipated - Another miracle?
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Fortunately everyone's opinion on this forum means diddly squat as none of us are in the Leeds coaching staff - Does that mean I and everyone else should no longer express their opinion?
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What if someone isnt on the Leeds coaching staff but knows someone on it very well?
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"What if someone isnt on the Leeds coaching staff but knows someone on it very well?'"
What did they say?
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"What if someone isnt on the Leeds coaching staff but knows someone on it very well?'"
Let's hope it's not the same someone who advised Tony Smith about Keith Senior's medical condition just prior to the CC Final down at Cardiff a few seasons back.......
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"What if someone isnt on the Leeds coaching staff but knows someone on it very well?'"
What if my mates uncles step son knew a lad that once knew somebody that knew the uncle of Bluey?
Quote ="tvoc"Donald two weeks ago was said by the same medical staff at Leeds to be four weeks away from a return, he played last Sunday - Another miracle?'"
Was it two weeks ago? The media source posted an article that was out of date, it was pointed out by a couple of posters.
Quote ="tvoc"Eastwood also returned earlier than anticipated - Another miracle?'"
Long term injury - harder to asses the date of return.
When a player is recovery is estimated 4-6 out but two weeks later he is playing rugby again its rather a miraculous recovery or bad judgement from the medic.
Anyway everyone knows just because JP is in the squad it means FA! Sinfield could hardly walk and he was named in the squad for 3 weeks running and didn't appear.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Let's hope it's not the same someone who advised Tony Smith about Keith Senior's medical condition just prior to the CC Final down at Cardiff a few seasons back.......'"
Was that the time when Kear backed out of his deal to play right centre for Hull?
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Quote ="RhinoNeil"Does that mean I and everyone else should no longer express their opinion?
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Everyone else isn't expressing an opinion on the medical condition of Leeds players - and that's probably because they are not in a position to do so.
Unlike you?
Do you still think Leeds are taking chances with the player's health?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=448872&hilit=injuries&start=30
Quote ="RhinoNeil"Was it two weeks ago? The media source posted an article that was out of date, it was pointed out by a couple of posters.'"
Rhinos momentum needed for Wigan
10th May 2010 - YEP
Meanwhile, McClennan is confident Lee Smith will be available for Friday’s game, despite suffering a bang to the head in the opening moments of the 70-22 Challenge Cup win over Blackpool three days ago. Smith was substituted after around 10 minutes and didn’t return to the action, but McClennan said: “It was fairly precautionary. He wasn’t right to go back on and he will be getting a cog’ test to make sure he’s all right. =#FF0000We would never put anybody in a position to play if they are not in good health, but as long as he is all right in that regard, he will be fine.” Rhinos’ medical staff are checking on Ali Lauitiiti, who limped out of Friday’s game on his return from a calf tear, but Greg Eastwood came through his first appearance in two months – due to a broken wrist – with no ill-effects. Carl Ablett, who has undergone cartilage surgery, remains on the casualty list, along with fellow knee injury victim Rob Burrow. =#FF0000Scott Donald is around four weeks away from a return following his shoulder reconstruction.
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Everyone else isn't expressing an opinion on the medical condition of Leeds players - and that's probably because they are not in a position to do so.
Unlike you?
Do you still think Leeds are taking chances with the player's health?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=448872&hilit=injuries&start=30
Quote ="RhinoNeil"Was it two weeks ago? The media source posted an article that was out of date, it was pointed out by a couple of posters.'"
Rhinos momentum needed for Wigan
10th May 2010 - YEP
Meanwhile, McClennan is confident Lee Smith will be available for Friday’s game, despite suffering a bang to the head in the opening moments of the 70-22 Challenge Cup win over Blackpool three days ago. Smith was substituted after around 10 minutes and didn’t return to the action, but McClennan said: “It was fairly precautionary. He wasn’t right to go back on and he will be getting a cog’ test to make sure he’s all right. =#FF0000We would never put anybody in a position to play if they are not in good health, but as long as he is all right in that regard, he will be fine.” Rhinos’ medical staff are checking on Ali Lauitiiti, who limped out of Friday’s game on his return from a calf tear, but Greg Eastwood came through his first appearance in two months – due to a broken wrist – with no ill-effects. Carl Ablett, who has undergone cartilage surgery, remains on the casualty list, along with fellow knee injury victim Rob Burrow. =#FF0000Scott Donald is around four weeks away from a return following his shoulder reconstruction.
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I don't give a fook about Donalds injury and tbh Im not a fan of back needless bickering... My opinion is that when the JP is ruled out by 4-6 weeks by the medical staff and 2 weeks later he is fine and dandy playing rugby again its rather a miraculous recovery or bad judgement in the first place from the medic - Especially when your talking about knee ligaments which need to be 110% healed before playing rugby league. Other injurys you can go into a game without been 100% and can pull though, but knee ligaments certainly is not one of them.
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I don't give a fook about Donalds injury and tbh Im not a fan of back needless bickering... My opinion is that when the JP is ruled out by 4-6 weeks by the medical staff and 2 weeks later he is fine and dandy playing rugby again its rather a miraculous recovery or bad judgement in the first place from the medic - Especially when your talking about knee ligaments which need to be 110% healed before playing rugby league. Other injurys you can go into a game without been 100% and can pull though, but knee ligaments certainly is not one of them.'"
Either way if he plays do you think the medical staff would risk him possibly missing the rest of the season?
Lets not forget there are "text book" answers to every injury and the club initially releasing that he could be out for 4-6 weeks is a ball park figure for that injury,not taking into account how it will respond to treatment.
It's hardly bad judgement if a player responds to treatment better than 1st thought or if the injury worsens and they are out longer.
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6. Danny McGuire
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9. Danny Buderus
10. Jamie Peacock
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18. Carl Ablett
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14. Matt Diskin
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22-14 to Leeds.
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| If that's the squad that plays then it's only 1 player away from full strength, no excuses if we lose at home.
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Then you wouldnt know someone on the coaching staff would you, you drongo!
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