I'll compromise and settle on that.

But 10 penalties in 10 games is misleading anyway.

I'm no Tvoc, but from the SL website stats:

Over the 7 seasons from 2003 to 2009 Bailey has given away 74 penalties - an average of just over 10 per season or roughly 1 penalty every third game (those 7 seasons equate to 188 games).

Hardly the walking penalty machine opposition fans like to think - eh?

I agree we should just make it a permanent thread like the Leeds Utd one



But do any Leeds fans really make him out to be that good? I've not really noticed anyone say anything more than that he's an integral member of our squad who has earned his place for the last 8 years (which to be fair is an achievement in itself).

I'd also add that at 26 he has a few years left in the tank and will hopefully continue to hold down his place on merit.

yes there was, in burtonwood. Number of warrington players were there.

Unlucky.

yeah the problem with this post is the utter tosh which is bailey was hiding out in the centres? bailey defends where he should in the structure, if he didn't Sini peacock his team mates and the coaches would be in his ear! what a load of old crap you post.

ps nobody feers the V! Defo not around here anyway!

That makes it official then


We know what he offers as do/did the last 3 coachs 2 of which picked him in GF winning teams so that's good enough for us

Yes, you are.

What did these 'players' say about TMFMISL?? Out of interest??

So what did they have to say?

I'm guna sit down for this one.

I've seen bailey been the key match winner in all our champion winning seasons! No more so against hull kr away last year when he ripped em apart making a brake out pacing the cover and putting watkins over for the winner whilst briscoe attemted to remove his head! Great power and footwork to brake the line, great pace for a big lad to stay away, great pass and timing to but watkins in, brave as for not thinking twice about the defender flying in above the shoulders.

based on what evidence? that's right the guff in your head! Crap statement, backed up with fook all evidence! IMO your opinion on this comment isn't worth $hit

Are you sitting comfortably?

What has that got to do with him hiding in the centres? I'm talking about him taking the ball up, which he probably managed about 4 times in that game and probably once or twice after his tackle on MF (one of which he decided to nancy cross field and get slapped backwards

)

Anyway, looking forward to seeing how many times he carries the ball on Saturday.

That's quite a simple answer even now. It will be as many times as is needed.

More to the point, why not look out for how many times the Saints players run at him, rather than how many times he runs at them?

I certainly will. Then again, it's very easy to act tough in defence when you shy away from fronting up with the ball in your hands. The sort of "I'll whack you, you won't get the chance to whack me because I won't run the ball in" approach I used to find so amusing when I played.

you really need to stop acting like a child on this. Its all a bit daft this crap your spouting.

But seriously, who gives a 5h1t?

Regardless of what some Leeds fans think, Bailey is very average with ball in hand. We accept that.

Bailey's job is to defend. And if he is doing that, then I don't care what your interpretation of that is. Play to your strengths is what I say.

I'm looking forward to seeing James Graham with steam coming out of his ears and losing the plot completely again.

I agree entirely - my interest in Bailey is the tough man reputation given to him by Leeds fans (TMFMISL etc) which is what my posts concern, when most of the evidence supports the contrary.

I wouldn't question his effectiveness in defence, he does a good job there.

Don't add logic into the mix.

Tis a shame Gilmour has left, him and Lee Smith trying to get digs into each other every tackle used to be quite entertaining



Should be a humdinger, although it could well be the same old story of us not having enough in the backs to get over the line.

Looking forward to it. I think the pressure is on us more than it is Saints to be honest.

Thing is, this is the part you are not getting.

The reputation is more fuelled by oppostion fans and players (like Graham's) OTT reaction to him!!!!!

Yes I (and others) will glorify him of course I'll hold my hands up to that. But the morons who claim rubbish about him will get told that!!

How can someone so average get under the skin of so many?

The Most Feared Man In Super League tag was created by me and used and adored by the masses. Thanks.

Your spot on there.





What have I just said?

I don't pick and choose the topics, its a free house as long as it stays within the AUP and I don't dislike the person posting the thread too much then anyone can write anything they like.

I think you've been spending too much time on the Saints forum

You've got to hand it to Bailey.
He's managed to keep his place in the squad for years, including winning 4 Championship rings.

That takes some doing when you offer nothing!!