he spent the vast majority of his time in the 2nd row.

Where was he at the death when McGuire dropped him off and we incurred the crossing penalty? 2nd row.

He started and finished the game there.

BJB HAS to be recalled.

Donald - 10 weeks out

Hall - Playing on one leg, right knee/hamstring heavily strapped and limping thoughout. Again no way will he be 100% for Friday.

Watkins - No chance of been fit for Friday by the looks of things.

Ablett - another 10 weeks out.

Webb - definately carrying a knock from the WCC still. Looked in discomfort at times yesterday.

Thats just the first choice wingers, reserve wingers and reserve full backs all fooked.

Yesterday was that bad that JJB played a full 80 at centre and Senior on the wing!

I was mulling this over yesterday and concluded that I would leave BJB where he is.

I think a full season at full back down there will do him the world of good as opposed to 7 or 8 games on the wing for us then back in the reserves,

For now, we might have to take a look at Coady and Bush again.

BTW, with the amount of game time JJB has had to spend in the centre and with Delaney's fitness I wonder if/when our coach will consider it a good idea to carry an outside back on the bench.

Ablett's versatillity normally softens the blow of losing a back during the game but as we know he's injured.

If Hall and Watkins are injured for Friday we will have to go with:

Delaney - Coady

Senior - Bush

We all love bush.

Which is why I asked the question. Had I been making a statement I would not have put a ? at the end of the question.

Yet no repsonse to the fact that 5 out of the 6 league games the oppossition number 7 has outplayed him. Some less knowledgable poster actually described him as the best scrumhalf in the league last week though.



Also how can we have an outside back on the bench when we are already weakening our squad by playing 2 hookers?

Very true. What was most dissappointing yesterday was the Buderus/Diskin partenship. For the 5th time this season it just didnt work.

Im Buderus' biggest fan, ive backed him up so many time since we signed him, but even im starting to lose faith.

The biggest disappointment for me (other than the result) was that yet again our kicking game close to their line was generally woeful. We seem to feel the need to have to score from every set of 6 close to the line rather than trying to build pressure to eventually wear them down. Doubly disappointing at the Galpharm where there is a very deep in goal area.
The other real annoyance yesterday was the Rhinos fans constant barracking of the ref, it was like a stuck record.
He wasn't perfect but he had a better game than our attack.
The fact that the Giants fans also thought he was crap suggests to me that he was fair to both teams.
My only quibble would be the Crabtree chicken wing that should have been penalised but wassn't, we could have no complaints about chicken wing that was.
Highlight for me defensively was Bailey's thunderous hit on Crabtree that galvanised us into our scoring spree at the end of the 1st half.
Cudjoe impressed me for them particularly in his kicking from the hand & his Richards like restarts. I don't understand why we don't try to adopt that style of kickoff. Frequetly due to the height he achieved we were attacking on the 1st set from a kick off 10m from our goal line.

You could have saved yourself the trouble by reading the thread.

Because it isn't a fact. It's your opinion. We all know what that is worth.

Erm, let me think, that is a toughie. Play 1 hooker maybe?

I note the coach could resist the urge to start with Buderus again yesterday and I also note he responded by being generally gash and underwhelming.

The most clueless fans in the league.

I don't dissagree with you there. But I would have put him better than Diskin yesterday. I thought both were gash and underwhelming yesterday. We can't ignore Diskin's performance if commenting on Buderus.

Which Is why I didn't agree with your comment on Bailey earlier. You made it sound that the other props did not impress. But due to the amount of work those guys had to to do, I though Kylie and Burgess put in tremendous efforts, along with Peacock. Having support like lumps like Kirke does not help.

I'm not convinced we'll see Delaney though.

He's clearly still not 100% fit and in the 2nd half yesterday there was a couple of times where the trainer/physio was looking at him and he was visually struggling.

Bearing in mind the coach said that the overiding factor for him missing the Quinns game was that they didn't want to risk him on our heavy pitch when he wasn't 100% then will the same be true for this Friday or will it be a case of needs must and he has to play even if not 100%? You run the risk then though that you make it worse and suddenly he's on our long term sick bench with the others.

Could be an interesting and much changed line up on Friday,especially if any combination of Delaney/Webb/Hall are out.

The slight irony is that had Broughton and Gibson still been around they would have been getting plenty of 1st team action.

Like G1 has said i'd leave BJB at Quinns as he's not really a winger/centre. I'd only bring him back if a long term injury to Webb as he is our full back in waiting for the long term future.

Don't know if Coady can cover wing or not but will have to come in to cover if Delaney is out surely?

No. Nor can you ignore McGuire when commenting on Burrow in that case and Burrow was certainly the more industrious and effective of our two halves yesterday, yet your criticism was reserved for Rob. I've stated elsewhere that the lack of attacking options and lack of runners means I am very understand of the struggles the halves are having at the moment.

Why did I make it sound that way? I simply thought Bailey was the pick of the props. I was not disparaging in any way of the other props.

Danny Allan made his Dayboo for Doncaster yesterday.

How did he go?

Alright I think. Started at loose. They still lost though.

That's because I strongly believe that McGuire having a bad game is purely down to the errors he makes, and this down to having all the pressure put on him to create in the game, due to the lack of invention from his partner. Simple as that. If McGuire was playing as a passenger in the game and just moving a pass on, then yes I would complain about both. But he isn't doing that, he is the only man trying to create something, and unfortunately he does not have the resolve to handle that on his own.

Hence why I was complaining about Burrow, who is offering absolute diddly squat at the moment.

Mentioned this on another thread. This is a little out of leftfield but amor has played a lot at centre, I know he has bulked up for the pack! But would love to see him get some game time in the pack or maybe the backs if injuries persist!

So whenever McGuire's gash, it's never his fault? Whenever he spends five seconds doing his little hop skip and jump routine in front of the defensive line it's not because he can't make good reads under pressure, it's because he has no runners? So in short, he's perfect, Sinfield and Burrow are simply holding him back otherwise he'd be right up there with Lockyer and Thurston?

That's revisionist horsesh*t of the highest standard.

Try reading it again Andy, before coming out with the horseh*t yourself. That's nothing like what I said. I actually was making the point that McGuire needs Sinfield.

And yet you managed to make that point without evening mentioning Sinfield, choosing instead to feature the lack of invention coming from "his partner" as the reason why McGuire himself makes errors.

McGuire has never been able to dominate a game like a good half-back should. The excellent form of Burrow and Sinfield for the last six years has masked the deficiencies in his game, but they are coming home to roost now he's under the spotlight much as they do at representative level.

Which, I don't actually dissagree with. Although I would not be quite so harsh, because I think McGuire's game has changed for the better this last 18 months.

And the fact that Sinfield is out, and Burrow is doing diddly squat at the moment, is putting all that pressure on McGuire, hence the errors. But the reason I was not complaining is because at least he is actually trying to create something, and the only one doing it. He isn't just passing on a ball and leaving it for others, or trying a duck and run straight into a tackle. He certainly is not predictable in what he is doing. The lad is just not having the luck.

McGuire simply polarises opinion - you either like him or you hate him and there is no middle ground.

Sinfield and Burrow both have equally as many issues in their game yet as soon as you get an opportunity to kick McGuire you will. It could be argued that McGuire's good play has covered up the problems in Burrows and especially Sinfield's.

Of the three McGuire has added much more to his game than either of the other two - end of.

Don't get sucked in David. You have been much better of late.

You can offer an objective opinion on McGuire without bashing Burrow, just as you can the other way round etc.

You did it today when you commented that Burrow was the better half back on Sunday.

Don't sink to Gotcha's levels.