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| Quote ="El Capitano"Investigation my @rse.
Its about time players came out in sport and vented their frustration against so called 'arrogant' people who mess about with peoples lives.
Senior is right in what he said. The play the ball was ridiculous tonight and after watching it all Senior said was 'I was stood up'! This could have been his last WCC and why should a referee who wants to make a name for himself or be centre of attention in Bellamy's autobiography be allowed to get away with it without knowing how much his decisions can change things.
I am fed up of referees in sport seeming to be untouchable.
If I make poor decisions at work, I would have to answer to people.
Seemingly referees get away with it. Not just rugby but like today - Celtic player gets sent off for nothing, referee doesnt even think before sending, Rangers win and Celtic lose the league.
These are people lives and lifelihoods. I say well done Senior for having the balls to stand up and be counted.
Rant over'"
OH, sounds like we've got a wee disappointed Tim in our ranks!
10 points ahead....a game in hand....the futures bright!
Seniors childish reaction cost us 2 points. The ref's descision is final. End of.
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"Yes. Played well but ultimately were just pipped against the best team in the world meaning we are the 2nd best.
How did you go on against Warrington?'"
Firstly let me congratulate you on having the 2nd best team in the world (1st best in the whinging competition by a country mile!!! but that's by the by)
Now to your question and onto our game:-
We lost too but no-one has thrown the teddy out of the cot just yet, Ian Smith had quite a decent game. Very physical against Wire, which you expect, enjoyed the match, was good stuff
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Keith should have kept his gob shut on the pitch, end of story.
Leeds had enough chances to win the match but blew their opportunities. I think perhaps Mr Senior ought to be a little more gracious in defeat IMO.'" Totally agree.
Hopefully that is a lesson your club has learned following its' frankly pathetic reaction to the very first Millennium Magic.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"True you can not blame the ref for shortcomings, and we should be above that.
But the club are wrong IMO to even consider disciplining Senior for those comments. His comments were spot on. Silverwood made that game about him. He was been arrogant, and if the RFL and Stuart Cummings had anything about them he would be disciplined for that performance. He would not have refereed a league game like that.
Shame really, because I have always been a fan of Silverwood before last night. But to get so many things wrong, is inexcusable.'"
Welcome to the real world of incompetant refs, now you have fallen from grace and become just another SL team you gonna have to start getting used to it sunshine, other clubs had to put up with this for years, crack on!!!
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Welcome to the real world of incompetant refs, now you have fallen from grace and become just another SL team you gonna have to start getting used to it sunshine, other clubs had to put up with this for years, crack on!!!'"
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| Quote ="FLYINGPROP"Welcome to the real world of incompetant refs, now you have fallen from grace and become just another SL team you gonna have to start getting used to it sunshine, other clubs had to put up with this for years, crack on!!!'"
Is the season over already, must have missed us winning nothing this year, my how time has flown.
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| typical senior doesnae like it when things go against him
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"typical senior doesnae like it when things go against him'"
People do silly things when they get all emotional. Don't they hamilton Saint?
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| Quote ="The Brother"Come on, i agree he was poor but haven't seen anyone stating DM was offside, he was poor both ways
There wasn't any game breaking calls go against you'"
Ermm, we can talk about a VIDEO REF decision if you like but that would be MR BENTHAM we would be talking about then wouldn't it and not Mr Silverwood?
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| Keith, you WERE right! Do players agree with referees just giving someone a ticking off for a dangerous spear tackle that has the potential of fatal results? Silverwood has now set a standard at play the balls and also how to plant an opponent in the ground head first. I would love to see in his next game as a referee, a player now turn round to Silverwood and say "You let Melbourne do that so why cant I!?"
Perhaps we should do the same as stains and request we dont get Silverwood ever again! Or the two muppets with the flags - I ask, how credable is the game when you have one of the chuckle brothers as an official????
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| welcome to the real world keith, leeds have played the bullying game for years and the rfl has done nothing about it.
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| Keith is entitled to his opinion, as we live in a free society he should be able to express it and as he is the most senior player in Super league ought to know what he is talking about! To say people who do not agree with your opinion ought to pack in watching RL shows arrogance not dissimilar to that of any dictatorship - i.e. anyone who does not share my opinion is wrong and therefore should be silenced!
Its time officials in our game were made to see their shortcomings, not by being treated disrespectfully on thee field, but at the same time not being protected by people who think they can do no wrong from any form of post match criticism.
I have been watching rugby league for over 40 years and have to say that in my opinion the standard of refereeing last night was one of two things - either incompetent or corrupt, and whichever of those it was if he had been found to be either in any other job (apart form politics) he would today be looking for a new occupation!
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| Keith may have had an opinion, and FWIW I agree with him, but that does not excuse he has gone against the rules. All players must abide by the Operational rules at all times, and it clearly states under section D1:
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(i) No Person subject to these Operational Rules shall publish or cause to be
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taken part, or of any other game under the control of the RFL.
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| Quote ="Legless"Keith may have had an opinion, and FWIW I agree with him, but that does not excuse he has gone against the rules. All players must abide by the Operational rules at all times, and it clearly states under section D1:
Criticism of Official
(i) No Person subject to these Operational Rules shall publish or cause to be
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contains criticism of the character of a Match Official or criticism of the manner in
which a Match Official has officiated at a game in which the Club or Player has
taken part, or of any other game under the control of the RFL.'"
That game wasn't under the control of the RFL though, if it had have been then it would have applied it's rules correctly.
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| True, but I'm sure it would still have been played under similar guidelines.
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| I don't have a problem with players or coaches speaking their minds at all
post match! If you brake the rules it's not like your gonna be beheaded is it. you get a fine and take it on the chin Aussie coaches do it all the time. I think Keith will be more pi$$ed off by having to pay a fine that's coming his way. Plus if silverwood is like Keith says he's just gonna be gunning for us more now. So maybe it is best to keep your mouth shut.
Harry grashon on look north today refered to the refs performance as interesting, with some interesting decisions? and grashon hates Leeds!
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| Senior is not supposed to criticise the ref's performance.
However, no such rules rules apply to me and I think Silverwood was crap, verging on the gansonesque.
As a footnote -
Melbourne's style of slowing down the ptb is not the style of rugby I want to watch.
If I want to see inert piles of bodies on the ground, I can watch the six nations.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"That game wasn't under the control of the RFL though, if it had have been then it would have applied it's rules correctly.
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So who's control was it under then?.... and as far as I know there is only one set of published rules currently in operation by the RFL
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Senior is not supposed to criticise the ref's performance.
However, no such rules rules apply to me and I think Silverwood was crap, verging on the gansonesque.
As a footnote -
Melbourne's style of slowing down the ptb is not the style of rugby I want to watch.
If I want to see inert piles of bodies on the ground, I can watch the six nations.'"
Like me the bearded one is not usually quick to criticise referees but I share this sentiment.
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| Quote ="diehardofowld"So who's control was it under then'" Cameron Smith's.
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| Quote ="diehardofowld"So who's control was it under then?.... and as far as I know there is only one set of published rules currently in operation by the RFL
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| there's english rules & international rules
international rules always seem to be something the aussies have been doing that we haven't
i don't like to blame the ref & state @ matches not the ref dropping the ball /missing tackles but the inconsistency of penalties given was something else last night including what appeared to be 3 final warnings wiped clean @ the interval.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"
As a footnote -
Melbourne's style of slowing down the ptb is not the style of rugby I want to watch.
If I want to see inert piles of bodies on the ground, I can watch the six nations.'"
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"As a footnote -
Melbourne's style of slowing down the ptb is not the style of rugby I want to watch.
If I want to see inert piles of bodies on the ground, I can watch the six nations.'"
Hasn't that been our gameplan of beating Saints in the last three grandfinals though? slow down their ptb?
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"Those people need to pack in watching RL then.'"
Really? I can't think of anything more abhorrent than a sport watched by a load of drones not attempting to question or seek answers for injustice whether perceived or otherwise.
I don't think anyone who has a basic grasp of the rules of RL can think that Silverwood had a good game last night. Consistently allowing messy play of the ball making it look, at times, more like amateur RU than top flight league.
I would be very disappointed if players didn't question to be honest - shows a fine passion for the team and game. And yes, he will - and rightly - be spoken to by the RFL but RL players are human with human emotion. Expecting them to maintain a silence at all times is frankly naive.
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