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| Quote ="Fordy"This is what I always find myself saying about players from any team. Ref's are very inconsistent and as you say don't all penalise for the same offences.
I think Child was a bit generous in our favour in the first half but as you say players should learn faster and if a ref is penalising for slowing down the PTB then they need to learn to roll away quicker.
As for the OP I think you need to watch your own players when defending your line as none of them had feet behind the line either, as most teams don't but it is one offence that ref's hardly ever seem to penalise yet it must be one of the easiest to spot.'"
Congratulations on your win today
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| My problem with Child is that both teams (IMO and it may be biased towards Leeds) played the same way in the tackle yet Leeds were penalised a lot more. If you take off the Webb dissent and the Watkins offside from the kick I can't see where we commited twice as many penalties as Wakefield. That said we gave them momentum with poor ball control and the majority of the time the team with momentum gets the advantage in the penalty count.
On the other hand with a bit more composure we could have quite easily scored another 2 tries to snatch at least a draw so we're not a million miles away. Congratulations to Wakefield on the win, best team definitely won.
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| Quote ="kentcat"you forgot to ask ho mant trophies you got
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If I could read the above I'd try to accommodate but I doubt anyone would understand if I simply posted that guff.
What does it say?
.......like I said.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"If I could read the above I'd try to accommodate but I doubt anyone would understand if I simply posted that guff.
What does it say?
.......like I said.'"
Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 28 - Leeds Rhinos 18.
Simple enough for you?
Ask yer 'bird' for a tissue now. Love.
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| you got beat fair and square same old leeds blaming anybody but themselves get over it you will still be at old trafford
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| Much improved performance on last week! The ball moving about a lot easier and some fantastic tackles in the second half
I felt there is still a lot of problem holding onto the ball and looking for repeat sets, as I have said before Mcguire is not the best of kickers and he seemed to be doing most of it today, hasn't learned his lesson on when to kick after getting away with it at Cas last year
The ref was very inconsistent and at times laughably bad, if the attacking team kicks the ball and hits his teammate in the back of the head that's probably offside and a penalty
The play of the ball is very messy this year, I've noticed it in the sky games as well and it changes from game to game
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| What are players supposed to do when they've been killed by offloads so they try their damndest to stop the major perpetrator by clamping his hand and the ball to stop the offload? That attacking player then struggles to offload the ball & drops it in the effort of trying to offload & the referee penalises the defending player who had his hand on the ball. When the defending player, who happens to be the skipper, queries the decision he is sin-binned.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"If I could read the above I'd try to accommodate but I doubt anyone would understand if I simply posted that guff.
What does it say?
.......like I said.'"
Put your toys back in the pram.
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"We were out-coached, out-thought and out-played. It really is that simple.
A disappointing game, made all the more arduous by having to stand near some of the most ignorant (of the rules) and, sadly, loud, fans of our team.
Rather than worrying about officials, we should be worrying about our performances (if there really is any need to worry this early).
Have Wakey had refs on their side so far this season? Hull? Warrington? Wigan? I suspect not, they've played well. We need to start.
P.S. as I left the ground I texted the Mrs and told her there'd be a thread on here about the ref.....'"
/respect mate.
It takes a lot of integrity to go against the flow and say it how you see it on the back of a loss like that.
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| My thoughts;
We had enough ball to win the game at a canter - our attack was pretty average on the day.
Childs wasn't brilliant to say the least but we should have won despite his reffing style.
The biggest issue for me was Brough onside for the interception - I would suspect not but it is impossible to tell from behind the sticks.
We lost 4 tries to 3 and bombed 4-5 serious chances, some down to good last ditch defence from Wakey.
The concern for me is the interplay between Burrow and Sinfield which seems all at sea at the moment, the lack of impact from either Buderus or Senior and the inconsistency of some players - early season though
On the positives; Webb was excellent, Bailey as good as he played, Eastwood looks like he could do some damage and Hall's defence when they were down to 12 was superb.
Cannot win every week
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| Quote ="TFC"Put your toys back in the pram.'"
Put yer undies in the washer. It was only 2 points FFS.
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| I thought Child had a shocking game, but that doesnt excuse a poor performance from Leeds.
The ruck area is just a total mess throughout super league. Terry Matterson hit the nail on the head on radio Leeds, you get a different interpretation week after week. But it was not only the ruck area where Child was off par. When Burrow made the break there was 3 clear cut penalties unbelievably all missed.
On the Leeds performance there was just no second phaise of attack. No runners what so ever - so easy to defend against. When we did have a movement off the ball Sinny fed a peach of a ball to JJB which resulted in a Mags try. But straight after that we went flat again. Simply passing the ball along the line and hoping that somebody can step or muscle their way past the defence is school boy, not the stuff of champions. We will get it back but why do we suddenly drop the skills and go so lateral? Its like they forget how to play.
At least the Kylie and Eastwood hits were worth the ticket price!! Wow.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"My thoughts;
On the positives; Webb was excellent, Bailey as good as he played, Eastwood looks like he could do some damage and Hall's defence when they were down to 12 was superb.
Cannot win every week'"
Webb is nowhere near fit (huge kryptonite problems), bailey was his usual lazy self only Hall can hold his head up high (Senior needs to copy the youngster's example)
Cannot win every other week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"And yet strangely the Yorkshire Radio commentators who have a distinct Leeds agenda, were both of the opinion that the referee had a good game and it was Leeds who were the architect of their gross penalty count ?'"
My wife must have been listening to a different yorkshire radio to you then.
She said that the commentaters made it clear, Andy Raleigh in particular, that the penalties against Leeds were justified, but they can feel aggrieved from the match that Wakefield did not appear to be penalised for the same offences. Therefore pointing out an unfairness.
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| Quote ="Hopie"Much improved performance on last week! The ball moving about a lot easier and some fantastic tackles in the second half
I felt there is still a lot of problem holding onto the ball and looking for repeat sets, as I have said before Mcguire is not the best of kickers and he seemed to be doing most of it today, hasn't learned his lesson on when to kick after getting away with it at Cas last year
The ref was very inconsistent and at times laughably bad, if the attacking team kicks the ball and hits his teammate in the back of the head that's probably offside and a penalty
The play of the ball is very messy this year, I've noticed it in the sky games as well and it changes from game to game'"
Just to make it easy for you to understand try reading the section of the rules on Offside.
Quote =#FF0000Accidental off side Where the Referee is satisfied that interference with play by
an off side player is accidental he should order a scrum.'"
Now I'm just guessing but a ball hitting a player on the back of the head would seem to me to be accidental.
Just because Child penalised you heavily don't blame him for everything, especially the decisions he got right!!
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| Quote ="ant1"Webb is nowhere near fit (huge kryptonite problems), bailey was his usual lazy self only Hall can hold his head up high (Senior needs to copy the youngster's example)
Cannot win every other week!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
What game were you watching?
I thought Webb had his best game in a long time! His kick returns were outstanding! Was Senior a constant threat when fed the ball! Senior made about 3 clean breaks. Bailey grafted had but he was on his own at times when Eastwood, JP and Kylie were all on the bench.
Just a slight different opinion
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| Senior IMV was better than last week, likewise Webb.
Burrow seems well off his game & there's no one pushing him. I'm sure he's as disappointed as anyone so no doubt he'll be trying like mad to rediscover his form.
Watkins improved once he decided to run rather than perform exaggerated sideways hops, my heart is always in my mouth over his style of ball carrying albeit that he didn't drop it this week.
Impressed again with Kylie, gave us real go forward.
They defended very well, only 3 desperate ankle taps prevented probable Leeds tries.
Re the ref, I may (well ok, am) biased but I didn't think he was consistent at the PTB, having said that he doesn't drop the ball or kick poorly.
My concern is, as I stated weeks ago, that all the emphasis seems to be on the WCC rather than on the weekly rounds of Superleague. I know that others on here agree.
Last year we were winning games despite playing well below par, this year we're not.
For Wakefield Brough was terrific, clear MOM, Tronc was a real handful & I thought Gleeson was good in defence particularly. Demetriou as ever worked his socks off as did Obst.
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| Rubbish from Leeds. Absolutely rubbish. Yesterday made my blood boil at how inept the whole team were. It's going to be a long season and after yesterday I'm not going on Friday.
We've gone backwards under Mclennan.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Rubbish from Leeds. Absolutely rubbish. Yesterday made my blood boil at how inept the whole team were. It's going to be a long season and after yesterday I'm not going on Friday.
We've gone backwards under Mclennan.'"
Welcome to the forum.
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| Thanks. Is this theo nly Leeds rhinos forum or are there others?
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"We've gone backwards under Mclennan.'"
Even if we finish bottom of the league this year I’d still want McClennan as our head coach.
& welcome to the forum
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| Must. Not. Get. Annoyed.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Thanks. Is this theo nly Leeds rhinos forum or are there others?'"
There are others. Go find them, unloyal fans are not welcome on here.
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