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| Quote ="loinertillidie"I'm still a fan of simply digging the pitch down by ten foot and increasing the rake.
I know in reality moving that much earth is not simple, but still. It's a panacea i'm quite fond of.'"
Wheres the water table in Headingley ?
Could be fun when it rains.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Serious question,
If your team had considered developing Central Park with four new stands would you have been happy if they then changed their minds and moved to the JJB instead ?'"
We did.
We built the Whitbread / Boston Stand that went almost 100% over budget, due to the "unforseen" mine workings
Plans were drawn up to completely redevelop the other three sides.
Moving to the JJB was far more cost effective as I suspect it would be than redeveloping Headingley.
As for congestion, I don't have a problem at Wigan but I know where to park, just as most of you do at Headingley.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
As for congestion, I don't have a problem at Wigan but I know where to park, just as most of you do at Headingley.'"
Wouldn't fancy sharing that little nugget with us would you??
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Wouldn't fancy sharing that little nugget with us would you??'"
No problem I'll pm you later or tomorrow.
What time do you normally get there and what route do you normally take to get there.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"No problem I'll pm you later or tomorrow.
What time do you normally get there?'"
If it's a friday night usually around 7ish.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Can a roof not be put on it at least though?'"
Would you be happy with giant supporting pillars overshadowing your back garden?
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| I do not claim any insider knowledge, but I cannot see how moving from HQ is feasible. The current facility is too heavily invested in and I struggle to see how we could dispose of it and recover that investment. The idea of selling it to Yorkshire Cricket doesn't seem likely at anything approaching full value for us. What would they do with the ground? A car park and the space to redevelop facilities in the North stand? The Carnegie Stand would be no use to them as far as I can see.
The other thing that I think has been glossed over by some on this thread is how difficult funding is to secure at the moment. The builder might be on their ar$es and willing to work at relatively low cost, but they still need to be paid, even if they are our "house" firm. Funding is hard to find for capital projects and interest rates are not that low either. I also suspect that the payback period that Mr H will look to is likely to be determined by the term of the financing he can secure.
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| TOMCAT - there's a blast from the past!
I view it the same way. There probably was a time where moving away would have been cheaper and in the long run probably better for everyone but the investment in recent years clearly shows its not on the agenda any more.
By the way you've got the old P-51/F-14 a bit muddled
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| maybe MR H will come up with the old leeds united scheme ,the one they did for the new stand at E R .Did'nt they have a 25 year bond, the bond holder,s paid x amount and held their place in the stand for that time at much reduced rates?
we know that leeds utd crashed financially,but i do think gary will go to the fans to stump up in some way
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"maybe MR H will come up with the old leeds united scheme ,the one they did for the new stand at E R .Did'nt they have a 25 year bond, the bond holder,s paid x amount and held their place in the stand for that time at much reduced rates?
we know that leeds utd crashed financially,but i do think gary will go to the fans to stump up in some way'"
Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Wheres the water table in Headingley ?
Could be fun when it rains.'"
Tanking sir, tanking. And pumps, really big ones.
Just because you're no good at making structures to hold back lots of water...
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.'" Like it or not the new South Stand will have seats. Will Have terracing as well but will be very much like the Carnegie Stand.
I'd have made it all seater.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"TOMCAT - there's a blast from the past!
I view it the same way. There probably was a time where moving away would have been cheaper and in the long run probably better for everyone but the investment in recent years clearly shows its not on the agenda any more.
By the way you've got the old P-51/F-14 a bit muddled
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I check in from time to time, just don't post so much these days.
Ref Aircraft recognition skills, well done. I just fancied a change and there are more Mustangs Flying than Tomcats these days .
p.s. It's a TF51 ,(they have 2 seats and two sets of controls & my Lad is in the back seat in that photo)
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"Tanking sir, tanking. And pumps, really big ones.
Just because you're no good at making structures to hold back lots of water...
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Au contraire, I would certainly consider digging a ten foot deep rugby pitch sized hole, I just wouldn't then lay a rugby pitch at the bottom of it.
That and the fact that my wife wouldn't let me
And the bloody UV filter broke this summer...
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"I check in from time to time, just don't post so much these days.
Ref Aircraft recognition skills, well done. I just fancied a change and there are more Mustangs Flying than Tomcats these days
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p.s. It's a TF51
,(they have 2 seats and two sets of controls & my Lad is in the back seat in that photo)'"
[iAircraft geek mode[/i Looks a late model Mustang - lovely looking planes. Is the F-14 long since history then? (I was into military stuff until the late 80s but not a clue what are the current warplanes).
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| Quote ="G1"Like it or not the new South Stand will have seats. Will Have terracing as well but will be very much like the Carnegie Stand.
I'd have made it all seater.'"
I have heard (unsubstantiated) word that the original plans for the South Stand was a 2 tier affair cantilevered out the rear car park with an upper seated tier and a lower standing terrace BUT that this has since been abandoned on cost and the new stand will be terrace only.
Maybe this is a phased construction to allow the seated tier to be added later. Which would make sense in these dire financial times.
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Quote ="Andy Gilder"Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.'"
Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley ( www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html)
reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!!
Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want?
Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!!
So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.
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Quote ="Andy Gilder"Completely the wrong point in the current economic cycle to start asking people to pay for things 25 years up front. Plus who is to say that in 25 years time the current occupiers of the South Stand aren't going to want to be somewhere else in the ground, maybe somewhere their kids can get a decent unobstructed view of the game for example.'"
Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley ( www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html)
reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!!
Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want?
Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!!
So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.
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Quote ="Old Feller"Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html)
reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!!
Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want?
Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!!
So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.'"
Considering the average age of a Yorkshire member must be well over 50 its pretty unlikely they'd see the 75 years out.
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Quote ="Old Feller"Whilst not disagreeing the attached article from our fellow occupiers of Headingley (www.yorkshireccc.com/debenture_scheme/index.html)
reveals an investment of 75 years before returning the original investment at face value & without the payment fo any interest!!
Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want?
Oh & you still have to pay the going rate for membership too and buy the test match tickets!!
So essentially Yorkshire is saying give us the money & we'll put your name on a seat.'"
Considering the average age of a Yorkshire member must be well over 50 its pretty unlikely they'd see the 75 years out.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Anyone got a spare £3K or £6K they don't want?'"
I can think of one poster who earns so much he could probably fund redevelopment of the entire ground
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I have heard (unsubstantiated) word that the original plans for the South Stand was a 2 tier affair cantilevered out the rear car park with an upper seated tier and a lower standing terrace BUT that this has since been abandoned on cost and the new stand will be terrace only.
'" I heard that (substantiated) but haven't heard that it had been abandoned. Shame that.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Considering the average age of a Yorkshire member must be well over 50 its pretty unlikely they'd see the 75 years out.'"
They do have the decency to pemit it to be passed from generation to generation.
I, however, would fully intend to be there in person.
If only to p*ss off my sons.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"I have heard (unsubstantiated) word that the original plans for the South Stand was a 2 tier affair cantilevered out the rear car park with an upper seated tier and a lower standing terrace BUT that this has since been abandoned on cost and the new stand will be terrace only.
Maybe this is a phased construction to allow the seated tier to be added later. Which would make sense in these dire financial times.'"
I was told exactly the same thing.
Hopefully they'll be able to secure enough funding with both seating and terracing because i think that'd be a much better stand and raise the capacity and corporate possibilities.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"[iAircraft geek mode[/i Looks a late model Mustang - lovely looking planes. Is the F-14 long since history then? (I was into military stuff until the late 80s but not a clue what are the current warplanes).'"
Also with geek mode set to full. The Tomcat is all but consigned to the history books now. With a certain irony, the last few in service serve with the Iranian air force. The USN retired their last squadron in September 2006. The Mustang is Crazy Horse, originally built as a D model in 1944.
Geek mode off.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"Also with geek mode set to full. The Tomcat is all but consigned to the history books now. With a certain irony, the last few in service serve with the Iranian air force. The USN retired their last squadron in September 2006. The Mustang is Crazy Horse, originally built as a D model in 1944.
Geek mode off.
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Ah of course, the Shah bought some in the early/mid 70s.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"I check in from time to time, just don't post so much these days...'"
I've still got some DVDs of yours (*).
Buggered if I can remember which ones though.
(*)[size=59 For clarity, and for the benefit of persons from the environs of Tadcaster, I must point out that I refer to RL DVDs.[/size
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