Dunno how it went on the team sheet but Gibson played a spell in the right centre then Ablett went there.

Hmm so Gibson played both sides having been out for quite a while.
If BM wants Smith as his first choice right centre then why so many changes in that position?

Just a slight issue with comparing BM and TS' records as international coaches. A full-strength NZ are ever-so-slightly better than England.



Bluey is struggling a bit this year, in part because he's being let down by a number of players who lets face it are simply not playing as well as they can.

Some selections don't seem to be helping too much either - agree entirely with NOT rotating or playing too many different players in the one centre position. It's a tough role in both defence and attack and by this stage of the season, injuries apart we ought to have settled on one player to go for the rest of the season.

If Smith were still here he'd be getting an unbelievable roasting by now.

What do you think?

[uTranslation: [/uThat's me owned.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 089525.stm Quote We had made provisions for them to be back in case injuries dictated that we were short on numbers in their positions, however we are in a good position'" Sounds very different to the situation last year, when we had a lot more players missing.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 089525.stm Quote We had made provisions for them to be back in case injuries dictated that we were short on numbers in their positions, however we are in a good position'" Sounds very different to the situation last year, when we had a lot more players missing.

Hey its not me who flounders around in a two bit solicitors office for a living is it? Too fooking subtle for you?







You think the squad is good enough as you keep telling everyone who still finds your views creditable, for the record any view you have in terms of selection and options is pointless, the squad is good enough, you said so, which means its parts are capable of playing where they are selected.

Flounders!

Founders!

How dare you.

I'll have you know since arriving 10 mins late this morning for my first day back I've been very busy with a toilet break, making a coffee, catching up on personal emails and surfing on here fro bites from you.

Flounders indeed.

I've not yet read any replies here yet but guess tvoc (and others) has (have) again responded more than adequately.
It's rather unfair to blame Webb (who I would suggest is still one of our greatest threats on attack - eg he has quickly learned it's very beneficial to support Buderus up the middle)..and Donald (who it must be obvious to anyone is badly missing being on the left with his old benefactor, who along with Ali, gives him the space he needs to exploit his greatest assets - speed and elusiveness. Webb too seems much better at getting out long cut out passes to his left).
Hall has grown so much in confidence.. and seemingly worked hard on improving his pace, magically epitomised by his try in Edingburgh...why not switch the wingers ?. And in his absence this Sunday please do not play BJB there out of position....or, God forbid, Ablett back in the centre. Threequarters should be [iWatkins, Smith[/i (he needs to be played there consistently as our best option at the moment...no more switching with Gibson and/or Ablett in a 'French farce' scenario), [iSenior, Donald[/i.

Unfortunatley, I have to agree with the comments on Diskin, Gibson, Bailey, Ablett and Kirke - to varying degress. I am particularly disappointed with Ablett who I thought would really kick on with his opportunties in the pack....I have never seen the advantages of having the belligerent, but ineffective-when-going-forward Bailey in the squad and Diskin has obviously taken the hump with having Buderus competing for his beloved hooking role.
Gibson is understandably lacking in confidence and must know he is only there to make up the numbers when all other options fail.

The greatest losses are without doubt Ellis and Scruton. The loss of Toopi for most of last season wasn't really an issue with the better squad we then had...and Tansey was largely a jack of all trades, master of none. Full back was his best position but with Webb, Smith and BJB available he won't be missed.

The pack must be a priority for strengthening..the expectation and responsibilty on Peacock's shoulders is immense. Sadly the great need for a right centre is gradulally becoming superseded ([isp is correct ![/i) by the failings in the engine room. The spirit is generally good, but the tactics, gameplan and discipline continue to concern. We are far too reliant on individual flashes of o[iff the cuff[/i brilliance on attack.

After all this we will probably beat Huddersfield on Sunday and continue to bumble along until disaster hits us at the end of the season with a plethora of serious injuries to and burn out of our key game winners. Burrow already seems to be a shadow of his former self: have too many knocks taken their toll ? Why can't he wear his scrum cap again ?

And now?

ooh tvoc you are a naughty boy bringing that up

Oh how I laugh!!!

PMSL. Owned

This post also deserves highlighting!

EAT SH*T RICHIE RAMROD

Saints v Warrington





. I even remember laughing at the time

I told you to have faith people!!

You are one of the few calm, cool, collected and knowledgeable people on these boards.

Oh yes. How embarrassing

How dare people have the nerve to have opinions and make predictions eh?

Much easier to park your backside on the fence and mock others when they turn out to be wrong than get shot at yourself.

PMSL Owned?

Get a life.

In fairness Andy there's a lot of merit in dredging up these threads and reminding us all about how the usual subjects continually write off the chief exec, the coach and the players. Its' not like its' a one off this season either. It happens annually/

The dredging up of such threads could be classed as educational for those posters being embarrassed.

Or it could be classed as a smug few attempting to belittle and humiliate those with whom they have had disagreements over the course of the year and "settle" personal scores.

Either way, it's not a particularly edifying spectacle. I thought that kind of thing might have died a death with the departure of a particular contributor, but it seems others are more than happy to take up that mantle in his absence for the sense of smug self satisfaction they derive from it.

Sorry but I disagree.

Is it uncomfortable for some? Probably. But this is a public forum and if you post an opinion you can expect to have it challenged. The validity of posts suggesting the chief exec has no idea, the coach is clueless and the players are not good enough is best examined at seasons end when we can see what the team has done.

Do you want a forum where posters can slate our players, coach and management and not be held accountable? It won't happen on my watch.