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| Quote ="RossRhino"What do people think about binning Diskin and using Burrow as an impact hooker until McShane is ready?
Buderus/Burrow would, imo, be more inline with the '2 hooker' system others use (Cunningham/Roby being the obvious one).
Would line us up as;
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What would people make of that?'" As has been pointed out, it's hard to break up that creative triangle. However, this strategy also beefs up the pack significantly IMO, as I've mentioned on another thread. Burrow could come on at 7 after half an hour, with Ablett going off and Sinny moving to 13. This would then allow Ablett to be used as an interchange second rower. If Buderus were to get injured, Burrow jumps in at 9, and shares it with Sinny and McGuire.
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"You are entitled to your opinion - please demonstrate along with Disa the last time a Leeds side capitulated that did not include Sinfield?'" How many games has Sinfield missed? Maybe it was Seniors fault.
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| Quote ="Matt23"Burrow could come on at 7 after half an hour, with Ablett going off and Sinny moving to 13. This would then allow Ablett to be used as an interchange second rower. If Buderus were to get injured, Burrow jumps in at 9, and shares it with Sinny and McGuire.'"
6, 7 and 13 (in Leeds' case) should be given their job and left to get on with it, IMO. Planning on changing scrum halves mid game and altering defensive patterns to suit when Burrow comes on are just too radical a concept for me.
Not that it helps any (but I did the leg work yesterday for the Keith Senior stats)
Leeds' W/D/L record with:
Danny McGuire - Pl 203, W 143, D 6, L 54, 71.9%
Kevin Sinfield - Pl 320, W 219, D 7, L 94, 69.5%
Rob Burrow - Pl 255, W 173, D 7, L 75, 69.2%
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"You are entitled to your opinion - please demonstrate along with Disa the last time a Leeds side capitulated that did not include Sinfield?'"
why?
it is of no relevance whatsoever, other than in your mind as you attempt to justify the bizarre position you consistently take to bin off leeds most successful captain ever and the player who above all others has been the foundation of that success
most leeds fans understand and appreciate that, a minority of clowns cannot, but you are in a separate minority of 1 as you clearly understand the game but seem to have a "mcguire" induced blind spot on sinfield
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| Quote ="King Whino"why?
it is of no relevance whatsoever, other than in your mind as you attempt to justify the bizarre position you consistently take to bin off leeds most successful captain ever and the player who above all others has been the foundation of that success
most leeds fans understand and appreciate that, a minority of clowns cannot, but you are in a separate minority of 1 as you clearly understand the game but seem to have a "mcguire" induced blind spot on sinfield'"
I had the same argument with him on the 'thats better thread'.
Take a deep breath and smile
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| Quote ="King Whino"why?
it is of no relevance whatsoever, other than in your mind as you attempt to justify the bizarre position you consistently take to bin off leeds most successful captain ever and the player who above all others has been the foundation of that success
most leeds fans understand and appreciate that, a minority of clowns cannot, but you are in a separate minority of 1 as you clearly understand the game but seem to have a "mcguire" induced blind spot on sinfield'"
Because you were responding to a post that stated that everytime Leeds play without Sinfield they capitulate - I simply suggested that is simply not proven by the facts - you are saying I am an idiot and I don't know what I am talking about - all I am saying is prove your point - but we both know you cannot - the rest is semantics your view/Disa against mine - end of.
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| Quote ="finglas"How many games has Sinfield missed? Maybe it was Seniors fault.'"
That is not the point - Disa is saying Leeds capitulate when Sinfield doesn't play - I am simply suggesting that is not bourne out by the facts
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| Besides which the stats suggest that Leeds win more of the games (in percentage terms) when McGuire plays than when either Burrow or Sinfield do. QED. (I've always wanted to use that and now seems as irrelevant a time as any.)
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| Quote ="Eccleshill Rhino"Because you were responding to a post that stated that everytime Leeds play without Sinfield they capitulate - I simply suggested that is simply not proven by the facts - you are saying I am an idiot and I don't know what I am talking about - all I am saying is prove your point - but we both know you cannot - the rest is semantics your view/Disa against mine - end of.'"
nah
you're malfunctioning, or deliberately fog knitting, although i tagged it onto your disa reply so i suppose thats where you latched onto it ... i couldn't care less about that as it doesn't help either argument
funny you should say I think you are an idiot, I didn't say that did I
for clarity then, it's your entrenched view that sinfield controls play to such an extent that burrow & mcguire cannot that is wrong. mcguire barely plays like a true stand off in that respect, its the biggest flaw in his game, he is capable of it (tuesday went very well for him as a playmaker) but his natural instinct is to run with the ball not pass it and he ends up disappearing up his own ar$e
as mcguire gets older (and slower and less mobile) its vital for him and leeds that he changes his game to that of playmaker first and foremost, and thats nothing to do with sinfield
even stranger is the assertion that "Sinfield is too slow both physically and mentally to play the playmaker - but sadly he will be in that position until he retires."
the only evidence you need there is 3 championships in 4 years with the captain/playmaker calling the shots and undoubtably being first name on the teamsheet under both coaches during that time
end of - as well - lol
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| Quote ="tvoc"Besides which the stats suggest that Leeds win more of the games (in percentage terms) when McGuire plays than when either Burrow or Sinfield do. QED. (I've always wanted to use that and now seems as irrelevant a time as any.)'"
You couldn't fit a cig paper between those stats and it doesn't take into account the rest of the Leeds team or the opposition.
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