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| lucky, lucky Leeds.
Based on the last play of the game we didn't deserve to even draw. See if you have the saem coaches handbook as we have:
It's 22 all, you break with 20 seconds left and get to the opponents 20 metre line with 3-4 tackles left. Do you:
a: Move the ball from dummy half towards the middle of the pitch and drive toward the sticks while the defence is trying to set then organise for a simple 1 pointer from right infront to win the game.
b: Move the ball from dummy half to the left wing to set up a 1 on 4, then run around in circles with the ball losing ground before putting in an aimless kick towards the opponents try line which is covered and with no chasers, hoping that the fullback will lose the ball and another one of the half dozen defenders there will pick it up from an offside position. Then kick the winning penalty.
Based on the performance and demenour of our club captain I'm starting to actually think he is going to Warrington at the end of the year - if not before.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"lucky, lucky Leeds.
Based on the last play of the game we didn't deserve to even draw. See if you have the saem coaches handbook as we have:
It's 22 all, you break with 20 seconds left and get to the opponents 20 metre line with 3-4 tackles left. Do you:
a: Move the ball from dummy half towards the middle of the pitch and drive toward the sticks while the defence is trying to set then organise for a simple 1 pointer from right infront to win the game.
b: Move the ball from dummy half to the left wing to set up a 1 on 4, then run around in circles with the ball losing ground before putting in an aimless kick towards the opponents try line which is covered and with no chasers, hoping that the fullback will lose the ball and another one of the half dozen defenders there will pick it up from an offside position. Then kick the winning penalty.
Based on the performance and demenour of our club captain I'm starting to actually think he is going to Warrington at the end of the year - if not before.'"
A very valid point - that I noted at the time but has since been lost with the drama of the win.
Who was he dummy half?
McgUire did the right thing in taking it back to the centre and did well to get there - his brain fart was the aimless chip.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"A very valid point - that I noted at the time but has since been lost with the drama of the win.
Who was he dummy half?
McgUire did the right thing in taking it back to the centre and did well to get there - his brain fart was the aimless chip.'"
Former Australian and NSW legend... Danny Buderus.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Former Australian and NSW legend... Danny Buderus.'"
Ah. Put it down to inexperience.
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| Quote ="The Joker®"Rangi Chase was the best player on the pitch today, Danny McGuire had a good game for Leeds...'"
I would agree with that.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"It's an opinion that could have been shared without the attitude.'"
Bless.
Touchy aren't we.
Quote ="Tony Soprano"How dare you pick your Leeds MOM on a Leeds forum
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[u Translation:[/u I'm still sore over being proved wrong on the recruitment debate.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Ah. Put it down to inexperience.'"
In fairness I suspect he got a call, and other players should have known were to take the ball as well. I thought McGuire had the right idea taking it back to the middle, but when he kicked it I couldn't believe it.
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| neither could i,a stupid thing for an experienced player to do. a drive to the sticks and drop goal was what was needed. had cas not fouled up i suspect he may have had some questions from bluey after the game
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| Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Former Australian and NSW legend... Danny Buderus.'"
thought bedsy was cracking again!! his defence is nothing short of amazing!! the amount of pressure he put on the kickers when cas were looking for the 1 point near the end was blinding!! for mine he saved us at least 3 teams with his sheer effort!! his fitness is really coming and his grit is something to behold
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game'"
this has to be a joke right!! burrow and sinfileds kicking game has been pretty poor all season. mcguires cross field kick are as good as anyone in the game.
who put the kick through to win the game?
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"In fairness I suspect he got a call, and other players should have known were to take the ball as well. I thought McGuire had the right idea taking it back to the middle, but when he kicked it I couldn't believe it.'"
In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'" neither could I,I shouted at the tv no
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| Quote ="rooster_rhino"The majority of the Leeds team are thick. Constantly doing stupid things, i wish the coach would drill some common sense into them and get them to understand how to play to the conditions and ref, stupid errors, plays and penalties given away.'"
Are you a man?
Some of your ebay purchases are interesting if so. You freak!
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'"
Actually, I just watched the replay. I may have been generous to Buderus saying he got a call, because right behind him screaming, jumping up and down and pointing at the sticks was Ali. I can't believe he missed that.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Thank you - but that was last year - care to comment on tonights game?'"
Yes, I thought it was a great game, our boys played well, expected to get thrashed so to bring it back from 0-16 down and only lose at the death was a great effort.
You needed to beat us sometime on our patch
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Congratulations on winning your cup final
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Again what a complete tool
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'"
Unbelievable...I agree. In fairness to Leeds their defence was fantastic especially with just 15 men (I was even pleased with Ablett at enforced centre)....and the conditions made the game something of a lottery.
However, we still seem mainly clueless and/or reckless in attack.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"
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Out of the last 10 games at your place it's 6-4 to Leeds.
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| Quote ="hopie4ever"Someone should tell McGuire he is not allowed to kick the ball, i think leeds would be much better off with our other kickers and Mcguire could concentrate on the better aspects of his game'"
his kicking game ain't the best even when we're firing.
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| Quote ="tvoc"In fairness there was one chaser in Jones-Buchanan (no surprises there) but that aside I couldn't believe the play either.'" We were 40 metres out with one tackle remaining, in the wet. it may not have been the most calculated decision, but there was no guarantee at all that we'd have managed a dropgoal from the position we were in.
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| Quote ="Matt23"We were 40 metres out with one tackle remaining, in the wet. it may not have been the most calculated decision, but there was no guarantee at all that we'd have managed a dropgoal from the position we were in.'"
Actually we were almost on the 20 and it was tackle 3 I believe. One drive up the middle against a still retreating Cas defensive line and then a drop from 25 out slap in front should have been a no brainer.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"neither could I,I shouted at the tv no
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Actually we were almost on the 20 and it was tackle 3 I believe. One drive up the middle against a still retreating Cas defensive line and then a drop from 25 out slap in front should have been a no brainer.'"
Correct. From the tap restart Smith took it up, tackle one. Webb, Lauitiiti, Senior and McGuire moved it to Hall, tackle two. Buderus to McGuire and the rest is history.
The textbook play from tackle two was to drive towards the posts on tackle three and then take the one pointer on tackle four, five or six whenever a clear opportunity arose.
What McGuire did was wrong, no wonder he was jumping around when Sinfield slotted the two.
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| Watched it again on the SLS. You're both right, the play was much dafter than I first thought. In fairness to McGuire he perhaps did not know how much time was left on the clock. What the hell was (the otherwise outstanding IMO) Buderus doing going blind at that stage? There was only McGuire out there.
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