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| Quote ="Katie Price"Look, I was involved in singing the song, we had won the game, and it was boring, so we needed other forms of entertainment.
Evidently you're suppose to leave your sense of humour at home at all Rhinos games these days.'"
Really? You need to work on your material mate....
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"Really? You need to work on your material mate....'"
Nope, I'm sure the lads will tell you, I am the source of many hours of amusement at the back of the Southstand with my drunken ramblings.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Because, like I said, all he might have done was shove the bloke. You never shoved anyone? The other charge was dropped as the prosecution provided no evidence. If he did shove him, or even if he punched him, so what? It was one on one. Since when do we start charging blokes with assault when they have a fight, one on one? Maybe when we have a point to make or a career to ruin? Who knows. I'm not judging Leon because I wasn't there, the whole thing sounds like a complicated mess anyway and I haven't read the court transcript.'"
He was legally represented and pleaded guilty. You don't have any experience or, indeed, understanding of the criminal justice system do you?
The court, having heard the accepted fatcs and undoubtedly considering the relevant sentencing guidelines, has indicated custody is a possibility. As much as you don't like the situation, that is what happened...get over it.
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"You don't have any experience or, indeed, understanding of the criminal justice system do you?
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An almost mythical Scouse beast ? .... Someone with no direct experience of the criminal justice system.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Shame they can't do the same for Ray French ....'"
and johnathan davies he is getting just as bad!
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| come on leon. he is goind to rip you apart yet again next week. easy easy easy
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| Quote ="joe d saint"come on leon. he is goind to rip you apart yet again next week. easy easy easy
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| Quote ="SaintsFan". Since when do we start charging blokes with assault when they have a fight, one on one? '"
We dont, they're charged with Affray.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"We dont, they're charged with Affray.'"
Pedant mode - In R v Sanchez the court found that it was necessary to show that a notional third person at the scene would have feared for his personal safety, not that the victim was put in fear. Were it otherwise, the definition of affray would be extended to include every common assault.
A common problem encountered by the CPS (2 people consent to fight, refuse to provide statements etc) remedied by charging under section 4 of the Public Order Act.
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| Quote ="gateaux"At least Wakey were playing saints though so its slightly more understandable, although I agree with Matts sentiment that some things just aren't called for at all, especially last night after recent events.
But (and this pains me to say!) I agree with Damo on this, you weren't playing Saints so why sing about Saints? We said the same last night about the Saints fans singing songs about Leeds and Wigan, perhaps they were using it as a "choir" practise for upcoming games? I don't know but both clubs have enough of their own songs that there should be no need to sing about clubs you aren't playing.'"
Saints fans sing???? I thought they just shouted forward all the time!!!!
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I thought it was funny!!!!'"
And if Emma thought it was funny then it really must've been!!!!!
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| Got back last night and watched the Wakey V Saints game on Sky + (sorry generic hard disk recorder) and the Wakey fans later on could be heard clear as anything chanting F****d in the shower,your're gonner get F****d in the shower etc etc
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Got back last night and watched the Wakey V Saints game on Sky + (sorry generic hard disk recorder) and the Wakey fans later on could be heard clear as anything chanting F****d in the shower,your're gonner get F****d in the shower etc etc'"
Shut up numpties.
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| Quote ="Special One"Shut up numpties.'"
Why should he/she?
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Why should he/she?'"
I am meaning the peoples singing the song Monkey boy. Special apologies for any confusion.
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| Least the band finally have the tune to Where the team they call the Rhinos song
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| Quote ="Kallum Watkins' Left Boot"Least the band finally have the tune to Where the team they call the Rhinos song
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"He was legally represented and pleaded guilty. You don't have any experience or, indeed, understanding of the criminal justice system do you? '"
Yes. I've worked for lawyers. But never mind. I'll get over it.
I work for some at the moment, but they're the personal injury lot. A bunch of greedy, bloodsucking pedants if ever there were any.
I do know that if the court has evidence that an assault has been committed, he pleads guilty and chances are he gets a lesser sentence (according to the changes brought in by the present government). But the nature of the assault is not known as yet. Common assault ranges from touching someone who does not want to be touched to giving a punch so until I know what he actually did to the boyfriend I am not prepared to say whether he deserves a jail sentence or not. Given that the violent entry charge was dropped because the prosecution couldn't actually produce any evidence and given that the assault charge was actually a change from the original charge of ABH, frankly I suspect the whole thing. But the law is the law is the law and if he so much as shoved the guy when the guy didn't want to be shoved, a legal case for assault can be made and clearly has been.
I hope it's community service at worst.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes. I've worked for lawyers. But never mind. I'll get over it.
I work for some at the moment, but they're the personal injury lot. A bunch of greedy, bloodsucking pedants if ever there were any.
I do know that if the court has evidence that an assault has been committed, he pleads guilty and chances are he gets a lesser sentence (according to the changes brought in by the present government). But the nature of the assault is not known as yet. Common assault ranges from touching someone who does not want to be touched to giving a punch so until I know what he actually did to the boyfriend I am not prepared to say whether he deserves a jail sentence or not. Given that the violent entry charge was dropped because the prosecution couldn't actually produce any evidence and given that the assault charge was actually a change from the original charge of ABH, frankly I suspect the whole thing. But the law is the law is the law and if he so much as shoved the guy when the guy didn't want to be shoved, a legal case for assault can be made and clearly has been.
I hope it's community service at worst.'"
Yet they have both been told to expect gaol sentences????
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| IMO (and i'll probably get shot down for saying so) the RFL and the club involved (in this case is Stains) should take the same action as the NRL do when a top flight player has a brush with the law and is plastered all over the media, fine the club and the club should suspend the player until the outcome of the investigation/case has been resvolved for bringing a black cloud over our beautiful game.
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| Quote ="pokerface"IMO (and i'll probably get shot down for saying so) the RFL and the club involved (in this case is Stains) should take the same action as the NRL do when a top flight player has a brush with the law and is plastered all over the media, fine the club and the club should suspend the player until the outcome of the investigation/case has been resvolved for bringing a black cloud over our beautiful game.'"
I presume you referring to the Brett Stewart case. Although I do think the RFL and the NRL need to have a far more similar disciplinary system than we have at the moment. You should not be allowed to punish someone before he has been found guilty of a crime. No matter how much evidence their seems to be and no matter how much of a bad light it puts the sport in. It's innocent until proven guilty after all.
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| Quote ="expatrhino"I presume you referring to the Brett Stewart case. Although I do think the RFL and the NRL need to have a far more similar disciplinary system than we have at the moment. You should not be allowed to punish someone before he has been found guilty of a crime. No matter how much evidence their seems to be and no matter how much of a bad light it puts the sport in. It's innocent until proven guilty after all.'"
I never said he was guilty but Leon said he was in court. Yes I was referring to the Brett Stewart case but there are other examples in the NRL where they take the same action, this procedure is also adopted in football, so don't brush this off as a one off incident...
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Yet they have both been told to expect gaol sentences????'"
No they haven't. Read the quote from the judge again. You'll find it on the Sky website or Chris Irvine's blog. The judge just said he was thinking of jail time. That could be a threat or it could be true, it could relate to both or just to one of them. S/He will ultimately be constrained by the law and what s/he is or is not able to offer as a sentence. For example, a judge could not sentence either man to life imprisonment for common assault. So there will be some guidelines that all sides will know about and if the sentence given is deemed too harsh for the crime committed, no doubt Pryce's legal team will appeal.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No they haven't. Read the quote from the judge again. You'll find it on the Sky website or Chris Irvine's blog. The judge just said he was thinking of jail time. That could be a threat or it could be true, it could relate to both or just to one of them. S/He will ultimately be constrained by the law and what s/he is or is not able to offer as a sentence. For example, a judge could not sentence either man to life imprisonment for common assault. So there will be some guidelines that all sides will know about and if the sentence given is deemed too harsh for the crime committed, no doubt Pryce's legal team will appeal.'"
[iAdjourning for pre-sentence reports, Deputy District Judge Nick Watson told Pryce and Reardon: "You need to understand that a prison sentence is what I have in mind at the moment for this offence." [/i
Unfortunately I am unable to post my thoughts on the sentence Judge Watson is likely to impose until after the 23rd April.
Rob Burrow’s representative career is looking rosy don’t you think?
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