I'm not sure how many times I can be expected to say this but just for you (cos I like you) Webb, on any given day when fit and available for selection, is capable of doing all that Smith can do and more besides.



I've no idea and honest about it. What other people think of my stats is a matter for their own conscious but people often build them up to be more than they are.

Would you point him out to me?





Smith could and should've sewn up the full back spot long before we signed Webb. Sadly, he wasn't as good as Tansey.

No frothing here shag. Just think Leicester Rhino summed it up beautifully on an earlier page when he said Smith is the inverted Ryan Bailey. Its' pure Rhinos revisionism.

When I do a new teamsheet I normally start with the full back position as well. Do I get the job when McClennan leaves?

I dont think they do build it up. You have put a lot of hard work into them and are incredibly good at it.

I have no idea too on the number of MOM awards. But I just wanted to see how it would stack up, based on how many Smith has had recently.

Of course that can not say with certainty that had Webb been there instead that he wouldn't have got MOM. Nor can it prove that Smith is any better than Webb in there.

There would however be some crededence in throwing out the silly statement that Webb is vastly superior to Smith.

For what its worth Gareth, I agree with that statement.

Where we differ is the reasons for why it didn't happen. Your statement on Tansey I am sure you would want to retract because that is just embarrassing, as proven by the player himself.

What statement?

It's documented fact that Smith (Tony) dropped Smith (Lee) and replaced him with Tansey. Tansey was considered a better option as the first team full back whilst Smith played in the reserves.

That's beth Smith and Mclennan who have had Smith (Lee) in and out of their team during his time here btw. Do they know something you don't?

What they both now know is that Smith is not only an integral player in the Leeds team, he was also required by T Smith for England too.

I think its good when people can admit to their mistakes. I have no problem with them over that.

Where is Tansey now, or why was he not considered for the Fullback spot in October when Webb was injured.

I know I shouldn't have said that because that is the embarresment for you I was talking about.

And the statement you made was that Smith should have had the fullback role sewn up before signing Webb. Which I agree on.

I weren't aware I'd ever made such a statement and therefore appear to have got embroiled in someone else's discussion.

G1: I suspected then and still do that Tansey's inclusion at full back in preference to Smith (Lee) was as a result of something away from the 80 minutes action we get to see each week.

I could, of course, be way wide of the mark.

Is there a need to slate Smith? What's he done wrong?

Don't you?

I'm looking for a free run at the job in 2011.

Playing for an NRL team. As we know that is a much higher standard than Smith is playing in week in week out.

You didn't. And yes, you have got involved. Although doing a better job of it.

Something that was still happening last season. Something that was so prevalent that the club came within a whisker of shipping him to Wigan.

I'll need to see a lot more from him with for a much lengthier period of time before I am convinced its' time to knight him like some of the revisionists.

There's no comparison,how many times have the M.O.M awards been agreed on by fans and pundits alike?????
FWIW Smithy has been great for us imo after returning to the team when he was on the verge of moving on.
But............Webb is a class above imo both in quality and deed in the FB position,he offers more attacking threat and directs the back line alot better than smithy.
I really hope we keep smithy and he continues to show his potential but webb is the no1 FB and unless he doesn't(god forbid) fully recover from his injury smithy won't threaten that status.

You still cant show the good grace that T Smith and Bluey have done, and admit to mistakes.

Incidentally how many games again as Tansey played in the NRL?

I don't think so, he hasn't once subtly referenced the Phil Daly thread.

Who has been slating Smith?

Not having a go but is Tansey really going to be playing week in week out?

Yep, got to admit, even I am not saying Gareth is slating Smith.

Smith is a great player, and is playing exceptionally well. Its a credit to him that he has taken this opportunity.

Webb was a world class player before his injury and will hopefully continue to be when he gets back. When he does come back Bluey will have a hard decision to put him if Smith continues in this form.

I think that although he has performed well on the wing in the past, he is a nutuarl fullback and when given a bit of space is dangerous with the ball. Its his foot speed that does this rather than his pace. This is why I think the management could see him as a centre. Get him more involved, rather than just getting him to finish.

I remember in 2006 before his loss of confidence, watching a few games, and noticing that when recieving the ball from a kick, he nearly always broke the first tackle, or at the least was able to half break and get quick plays. I think that we need to utilise his footwork more, and I don;t think the answer to that is on the wing.

I may even be tempted to play Webb in the centres or off the bench to start with if Smith continues on this form

I apologise, I thought you seemed to be under recognising his contribution.

How many games into their season are they over there DISA?

Contrary to what Gareth thinks, that has actually been talked about by the players at HQ. Whether it happens, well thats a different thing.

How do you know what I think? When have we discussed playing Webb in the centres?

Have you confused me with some else?