Basically giving Leeds little/no credit, that Watkins try was a basic training ground move that should've easily been shut down by Saints, that the ref benefitted Leeds with ruck calls and obstruction calls, and that he's treating the whole thing as a learning experience for his "kids and juniors".

In short he's the polar opposite of both Brian McDermott and Tony Smith who showed their class again this weekend.

Why's that then?

Glad you won

Morning all.

Just wanted to congratulate you guys on your win against us in the semi final. You're a fine side with way too much 'know-how' for most, especially us I fear, in big games.

I never felt it was really in doubt, even when we made it 18-14 and in truth, felt it again should have been finished in the opening 30 minutes. Saints need to amend their approach if we're to trouble you come Play Off time.

Congrats again anyhow. Somewhat fitting that the likes of Peacock and Sinfield will get the chance to go out at Wembley and possibly OT. Befitting of such players.

A lovely review of Headingley from a jubilant Wire fan

most of them only stopped for 3/4 game too

Not just because they lost either! But really it is.Anyway back to the backwoods of small town Warrington

Didn't even know Warrington took any fans to the game, looked and sounded like a HKR home game with the crowd.

Wooden seating in the Carnegie ? I had a season in there when it first opened ,I'm sure the seats weren't wooden

What I say on my forum is that without the offloading game or with it somehow nullified you would be an ordinary team [ilike the rest of us
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Hardly an insult.

As I said the best team won !

According to the BBC Cunningham said:
"I was disappointed with the start. We probably gave Leeds a little bit too much respect.

"I could see the players were gassed but I knew, if we were within a score or two at half-time, we would be in with a shot.

"We came out really well in the second half and at 18-14, the game was on, but we made the misread on Watkins, which was down to poor attention to detail, and it ended up costing us."

Not exactly insulting to Leeds. Personally I didn't think the Sav try was a try but the VR gave it.

Thanks. In fairness Saints weathered the storm incredibly well and no doubt they have the talent to score scinitillating tries too. Walmsley, Saveliio and of course Roby are class; Percival will be too. Watching the game back I have to say Percival's first try was as good as anything else I've seen this season (apart from the unbelievable Peacock try of course). I wouldn't swap Hardaker for any other SL FB, but on attack there can be no doubt he could not create a try like Quinlan did there. Two on 4 and still your team scored. Brilliant play.

There are TWO stations from which the stadium can be accessed, BOTH of which are closer to the ground than the nearest station serving any other stadium in Super League!

You can say what you like about the ground's facilities for the average fan but the way some of these Wires talk you'd think there had never been big international sporting events at the complex never mind a crowd which was smaller than all but one of Leeds home SL games this season.

You should have seen the many posts about Old Trafford after they lost to us in their first Grand Final. They were also complaining about the kick off time of the Grand Final as well.

Are you sure? Warrington's closer, I'm certain. Headingley Station is certainly further than Warrington.

Even if it is closer it's not what you call a long walk

We're saints ever penalised for holding down?

LMS in particular was flopping at virtually every tackle, at one point he did it twice in quick succession on tackles on backs where he'd been 5 yards away as the tackle was completed it was literally Carl Ablett standard obvious infringements.

I'd also point out that we had a lot of possession with saints defending on there line where they had 2 or 3 tackles in a row where the ref warned them (but didn't penalise) for not being behind the line.

We're there any controversial obstruction calls, I can't remember any.

There should have been a review of a possible obstruction in the lead up to the Peacock try.

I think those are valid comments to be fair.

I also believe we showed far too much respect. One example of such was allowing Moon to run right across our defence in the build up to the Hardaker try. He should have been knocked into next week. I also felt us kicking early and playing so conservatively effectively told you that we didn't fancy going toe to toe and would take our chances on you tiring.

Pleased to see Savelio getting plenty of credit. The boy is a star in the making. Sadly, he's already openly acknowledged that he wants to go to the NRL and will likely leave us in 2 years when he'll be only 22 years of age.

I don't think there was a single penalty at the tackle for holding down or flopping despite Saints regularly sending men in well after tackle completion to lie on. Frankly it didn't matter, and I thought Thaler was right to let the game go on - in general it had little effect on Leeds speed at the PTB.
Thaler had one of those games where you really struggled to think of something he couldn't have done better. Although I do think it helps when both teams are there to play - which, to Cunningham's credit - he seems to have his team trying to do.

Why? You don't mean because Burns was whining about Thaler getting in his way?



Sinny might have been MoM but Burns collected the Lee Briers award.

No. Hall going round the back of two of his own players to break out of your half and set up the Peacock try. That's what Saints fans and players were objecting to.

The saints man missed the tackle couldn't get hold of Hall, then the next tackler ran into his own man, there was nobody obstructing a would be tackler.

You cant go back after a play the ball.

In which case it couldn't be reviewed, because the ball had been played inbetween.

As has been said, no defenders were impeded in attempting to tackle Hall.