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| Quote ="G1"How, by dropping a player who has performed better than Donald in their last outing, does that affect the dropped players' confidence?
When does the need to pick form players in the first 17 override the need to keep up the confidence levels of one under performing individual?'"
No, you are right. We should pick a team based only on their last performance. Its a good job that Ablett got injured really, because if Rob, McGuire and Ablett were all available on Saturday, then Sinni would be dropped.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"No, you are right. We should pick a team based only on their last performance. Its a good job that Ablett got injured really, because if Rob, McGuire and Ablett were all available on Saturday, then Sinni would be dropped.'" I never said that.
If Donald's poor form were only in his last game you'd have a point but it hasn't been.
What message will it send to Watkins to see Donald selected ahead of him after Sunday's showing and why are you more concerned with Donald's confidence than you are Watkins?
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| G1 is right what will Kallum be thinking if one week he gets the chance to prove him self and scores twice and was the best winger on the pitch and the other winger (Scotty) has a poor game and hasn't played to the best of his ability all season and the week after still gets picked and Kallum is dropped il tell you what he will be thinking im gonna ring Wakey uo!
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| Quote ="G1"I never said that.
If Donald's poor form were only in his last game you'd have a point but it hasn't been.
What message will it send to Watkins to see Donald selected ahead of him after Sunday's showing and why are you more concerned with Donald's confidence than you are Watkins?'"
I am not more concerned wit Donald's confidence tan I am Watkins, HOWEVER I would put a lot of Donald's lack of confidence down to the fact that he is playing on the wrong side, and does not have a consistent centre partner.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I am not more concerned wit Donald's confidence tan I am Watkins, HOWEVER I would put a lot of Donald's lack of confidence down to the fact that he is playing on the wrong side, and does not have a consistent centre partner.'"
The posisitional thing should really be sorted by now emm,i agree the number of centre partners hasn't helped but his form and confidence has been way off for a while.
Imho 1 or 2 match's in the reserve's where he's not under as much pressure could help regain his confidence whilst also acting as an incentive to get back into the 1st team.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I am not more concerned wit Donald's confidence tan I am Watkins, HOWEVER I would put a lot of Donald's lack of confidence down to the fact that he is playing on the wrong side, and does not have a consistent centre partner.'" So would I and I have been his staunchest defender BUT, he's had a settled centre partner now for several games and his centre put two tries for him on a plate which he blew.
Worse though, he fluffed a loose ball giving Hudds posession back that led to Hodgson's (Brett) try.
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| Quote ="G1"So would I and I have been his staunchest defender BUT, he's had a settled centre partner now for several games and his centre put two tries for him on a plate which he blew.
Worse though, he fluffed a loose ball giving Hudds posession back that led to Hodgson's (Brett) try.'"
So by settled centre partner, you mean a player that has been playing on the wing himself for the last couple of seasons, so therefore will not necessarily be ad hoc with all aspects of a centre's game?
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"So by settled centre partner, you mean a player that has been playing on the wing himself for the last couple of seasons, so therefore will not necessarily be ad hoc with all aspects of a centre's game?'"
Surely that's exactly what he is at this stage?
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| I think this playing on the wrong side stuff is wearing a bit thin now. He's had long enough and he's good enough to adapt, and some of the mistakes he is making he shouldn't be making on any side of the pitch
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| Quote ="G1"Worse though, he fluffed a loose ball giving Hudds posession back that led to Hodgson's (Brett) try.'"
Rewind and try that one again.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Rewind and try that one again.'" Sorry, it was Kev Brown who scored.
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| player makes 2 mistakes in a game and gets slaughtered. the bad bounce i don't class as an error by the way.
i think some people may be eating there words come saturday night
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| Quote ="tad rhino"player makes 2 mistakes in a game and gets slaughtered. the bad bounce i don't class as an error by the way.
i think some people may be eating there words come saturday night'"
To be fair mate it's not just last weeks performance that's brought this kind of discussion about.
Fwiw i'd love him to prove us wrong the sooner the better but if he doesn't pick up his form then it's only fair he should be dropped or "rested" and i know it's pedantic but he made more than 2 errors mate
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| it just seems there is some kind of agenda.other players have been poor this season yet donald seems to have been made a scapegoat
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it just seems there is some kind of agenda.other players have been poor this season yet donald seems to have been made a scapegoat'"
I agree mate but imo the other players have at some point improved their own performance whereas donald seems to have struggled all season.
I know part of it was the positional switch,the different centre partners and the team overall not performing to their best but i think he should of settled in that position by now and his individual performances should of picked up also.
It can be perceived as scapegoating but i don't think it is and i hope he turns it around because at the moment watkins has come and outshone him,broughton is looking good in a poor hull team and we all know how hall is performing so it's up to him to step up now.
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| watkins was good against shudds mate, rest of the time he has been very inconsistant. i would agree these were at centre and he will, in time, be a top player.
however to judge him on one game on the wing is wrong
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| put donald on the left & hall on the right for the rest of the season.....
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| hall has done very,very well this season and his england call up is fantastic.
what he lacks is speed off the mark which donald has.
senior creates far more and i firmly believe donald would prosper back on the left.
hall is a big, tough lad who when he gets going is quick. i think he would be good on either side
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| Quote ="tad rhino"watkins was good against shudds mate, rest of the time he has been very inconsistant. i would agree these were at centre and he will, in time, be a top player.
however to judge him on one game on the wing is wrong'"
He still outshone the player who's been our best winger up until the start of this season which was more of my point.
I know he's been inconsistent at centre but what does that say about scotty???
If you pick the team "on form" then scotty doesn't get a look in at the moment which i hope he turns around asap.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it just seems there is some kind of agenda.other players have been poor this season yet donald seems to have been made a scapegoat'"
The Leeds fekwits have got to have someone to have a go at each season.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"The Leeds fekwits have got to have someone to have a go at each season.'"
Not at all he's been lacking form and confidence all season how long do you let it go then emm????
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Not at all he's been lacking form and confidence all season how long do you let it go then emm????'"
Yeah. It has gone on as far back as Tony Kemp, (poss even earlier)
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| very rare a team has two top class specialist wingers, the cap does not allow it, i do notice how many wingers get tackled because they are carrying the ball in the hand they should be handing off with, or stepping inside off the weaker foot. unfortunatley for donald he has drawn the short straw out of two left wingers.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Yeah. It has gone on as far back as Tony Kemp, (poss even earlier)'"
So scotty should be picked every match irrespective of form?????
Whatever the outcome i hope he gets out of his rut and shows the form we know he can.
I personally would give him a week or 2 out of the limelight to regroup and come back stronger.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"So scotty should be picked every match irrespective of form?????
Whatever the outcome i hope he gets out of his rut and shows the form we know he can.
I personally would give him a week or 2 out of the limelight to regroup and come back stronger.'"
It makes me laugh that people think that dropping a player will give him more confidence.
How exactly does that work?
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