No, it started when you posted this nugget...



And I called you out on it. That you dug in and have doubled down it every week since then, as Hull kept losing week after week, just proves my point.

Enjoy the off season Sal. The break will do you good.

I stand by that - Hull made the top 8 - even their coach has said the players had nothing to play for after the split. Despite not having either of the half backs available virtually the whole season plus significant long-term injuries to key personnel they managed to make the top 8 and secure SL status for 2019.

Leeds on the other hand didn't make the 8 and have been visiting the likes of Halifax and London. Yesterday they lost for the first time in 38 years to a club that started the season in a lower division. Many on here are saying this is the worst team in the modern era.

Only you thinks the two things are equally calamitous

- you have been seldom seen on here this season because even you cannot defend the indefensible so the only thing you can do is use Hull as a deflection from the atrocious season Leeds have had.

No doubt we will see you again in 2020 when Leeds start winning again in a regular basis - perhaps by then your fascination with trying to bait me will have waned

adios Loiner

Wonder how you'd feel if Leeds were top 4 contenders (they were) before losing some key players to injury (like Leeds) and going on a 14 losses out of 16 game run (or 12 losses in Leeds' case) and blaming "the system" for them having nothing to play for? Dress it up how you like Sal, they've had a disaster of a season and it's nothing to do with the Super 8s, since 9 of those 16 games were played before the 8s even began.

That's my final post of 2018. If this forum makes it through the off season I'll see you in 2019.

All the best, Merry Xmas and all that.

So is London going to win in Toronto on Sunday ?
Is Bradford going to lose to Workington and have to play again against the Championship bottom club Swinton Lions?

You didn’t do very well there then did you?

Can’t say he didn’t stick his neck out though...

Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team

Quote ="Omar Little"Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team '" The 1996 squad was probably worse than 2016, but I'm not sure about the team that played in the Middle 8s this year. I think this was genuinely our worst team I've seen in my lifetime. If you don't believe me, look at the team we had from 1996. Some of the players left or were injured for large parts of the season, but hey, that's true of 2018 too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Leeds_RLFC_season The likes of Barrie McDermott, Harvey Howard, Adrian Morley, Mike Forshaw, Nick Fozzard and Terry Newton (all squad regulars with lots of appearances) would demolish our current pack. Even Mick Shaw would give Brad Dwyer and Parcell a run for their money... Okay, not many of those names lived up to the reputations they would go on to develop, but that team is light years better than what we have this year. The less said about Carl Hall et al the better...

Quote ="Omar Little"Pah, don't even come close to the 1996 Leeds team '" The 1996 squad was probably worse than 2016, but I'm not sure about the team that played in the Middle 8s this year. I think this was genuinely our worst team I've seen in my lifetime. If you don't believe me, look at the team we had from 1996. Some of the players left or were injured for large parts of the season, but hey, that's true of 2018 too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Leeds_RLFC_season The likes of Barrie McDermott, Harvey Howard, Adrian Morley, Mike Forshaw, Nick Fozzard and Terry Newton (all squad regulars with lots of appearances) would demolish our current pack. Even Mick Shaw would give Brad Dwyer and Parcell a run for their money... Okay, not many of those names lived up to the reputations they would go on to develop, but that team is light years better than what we have this year. The less said about Carl Hall et al the better...

Well done London, and Danny Ward!
Toronto are a typical Paul Rowley team, the the guy has no idea how to pace a season, Toronto have been poor throughout the 8s,similar to Leigh a few years ago.

Mind you, both teams would need at least 10 new players to avoid relegation next season.

Great win for London. Good to have them back in super League again. Its a shame the Toronto couldn't come up, as their investment and rise has been one of the few good news stories about RL in recent times. Hopefully another season in the championship will prove their mettle and they can make it next season and be stronger for it.

Toronto will go the same way as Crusaders did.
That "pitch" is a joke.
As for London i hope they have a better ground lined up the 2nd tier RU club Ealing.

Toronto, or as SKY said last night Torono to second T is silent, just like their performance. Expect them to fold next season after failing to BUY there way into Super League. I think Wigan, St Helens & Warrington chairman will be crying in their beer now that have lost a free trip to Canada next year.

I found myself cheering for London and chuffed they’re back in SL, Ive said before I really want to like Toronto but because of a somewhat misplaced arrogance and their style of play I just cant seem to warm to them. How bad is mcrone, horrible player.

Was it McRone that was binned/sent off in the challenge cup game against Wire last year? Had a mare, what that chip over was all about is lost on me...

Toronto= Leigh circa 2013. I hope they come up (mainly cos I fancy a trip to Canada...) but couldn't help but be over the moon for Danny Ward listening to the post match interviews. They were brilliant last night and fully deserved the win.

Any idea if Trailfinders is up to scratch for SL?

And the conundrum being where at this stage do those 10 players of suitable quality come from - doubt they've even planned much for this as I'm not sure they expected to be in this position

expect Toronto to go backwards next season, All the investment has not paid off, if they do not make the top 5 next year the will miss out on the play-off for promotion

According to them earlier in the season, promotion this year was not a critical part of the plans due to the long term strategy - be interesting to see how the next few months unfold

Widnes? Isn't that what happens with P&R?

He said 'of suitable quality' so that rules out Widnes.

the 1 up, 1 down has not helped them, I guess they voted for it, but I dont expect them to challenge for promotion next season

It will be very interesting in the Championship next season with only the top side being promoted

How will Widnes (with their £500k parachute payment)
Toronto(With their dream of buying a SL place at all costs,With a sprinkling of NRL talent,but also a club stacked with mainly "SL has been's" at present and also a poor coach IMO in Rowley)
Toulouse(probably the best side to watch in the championship this year)
All shape up for their big chance of SL for 2020?

Which of these 3 clubs will go for the golden ticket and push the boat out next year, knowing full well that this could be their last chance saloon for a while of a chance of reaching SL ?

Which sides out of those championship clubs that don't prevail and make SL in 2020 will still be strong enough to mount a challenge for SL in 2021?

Thoughts and your predictions guys

Isn’t the Championship decided by a 5 team playoff like SL?

Widnes had £1.8M this year, they didn’t do too well with that. I don’t see them been a powerhouse with £1.3M less.

I expect Toronto to win the league at a canter again. However as we saw last week anything can happen in a one off game and promotion will be decided by the Championship Grand Final

Behind Toronto it’s up for grabs, Toulouse, Widnes, Halifax, Bradford, Featherstone, Leigh (if they are still in existence)

A poor squad with an even worse coach. There will be a sprinkling of their players surfacing in SL next season.

No need to troll Leeds now