When Webb was out of the team Mc could easily have gone for Bjb who has played most of his acadamy career there or even called up the "in form" Watson from the U20's but gave it to ZH.
Then when Webb returned and didn't regain form he was quick enough to trust ZH once again with the no1 shirt.
As for doing "f.a" at LC he was tearing teams up and making plenty of yards in a completely new position and still very raw at SL level what did you expect Meninga ,Senior or Gasnier??
Also before you mention what little quality ball Hall received check back and see when it was actually on or our backs got decent enough ball to feed our wingers.

Ah, my old mate Douglas.

Was only saying the in the pub other day that Dougie could always spot a future club legend. Good day that, having a couple of beers with Marcus Vass, Jim Leatham and Lorenzo Marquez-Laynez.

Thanks. A certain Southstander regular had a real pop (twice) at that post on page 7, apparantly it confirmed I was clueless. It made me laugh at the time and it still makes me laugh at the absolute conviction that person constantly has despite being proved wrong again and again and again. He's still unable to predict sex in a brothel.

This is a bit of a myth. Hardaker is a fantastic talent, but he had plenty of opportunities to feed Hall when he was at LC and passed on most of them. I'm sure much of that was down to his lack of experience in the role, and partly his natural instinct to take the defence on himself, but his distribution to his left side is poor, as evidenced by his pass into the stand at the DW 2 weeks back.

So Leeds playing yet again ordinary. And will only pull their tripe out in the play-offs.

Castleford are poor. Should have been hammered, not getting beat by,

Cas were rubbish last year but the new players (Tansey, Shenton, Webster, Carney, Gilmour, Huaraki, Mason) are far better that the ones they have replaced, we have the best 6 in the league and Huby back to full fitness. As we saw today, Cas are no pushovers this year.

Idiot

So yet again the 'Rhinos' serve up a poor performance in a regular season game. Quite a habit under this coach isn't it?

Cas are a poor side and should be dispatched with ease, not haplessly losing to.

The Leeds players are cheating their fans with giving half-@rsed performances and then turning up when the season is coming to an end.

Taxi for Brian?

Idiot #2

An half-d attitude towards the regular season guarantees 5th place, the gift of a comfortable ride in the play-offs and another SL title.

Your club ought to try it some time.

And perhaps this kind of arrogance is the problem? I'm going to assume you didn't go today, this idea that "Cas are crap" is a hangover from last year.

Quite a habit full stop. Leeds coaches who have lost at Cas away:
Brian McDermott
Brian McClennan
Tony Smith
Daryl Powell
Dean Lance
Graham Murray
Dean Bell
Doug Laughton
David Ward
(beyond that I can't recall)

Anyone know of the last coach to finish a stint at Leeds who didn't lose there?

Why would a Hull KR fan go to Cas vs Leeds?

I just assumed that you might have seen Cas play before deciding they are crap?

Not sure what Bruce_Forsyth is thinking but I've never said Cas are crap.

Sorry got mixed up with "who said what"! I'm just wondering on what basis he thinks Cas are crap. Even worse if he is a Hull KR fan!

I'd have offered Doug Laughton but you have him on the list of losing coaches so I'm unsure.

If not Laughton, Malcolm Clift never lost there, nor did Maurice Bamford during his first stint in charge.

Ha you have the advantage of facts to hand whereas all I can rely is misty reminiscences and as we get to two decades distant my memory goes hazy



Having double checked it seems almost inconceivable but somehow Laughton managed to go four victorious seasons down t'lane. Further proof that Douglas is the finest Leeds coach of the past 25 years.

You just have this on your desktop ready to copy and paste now don't you?

Actually, I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of "McDermott Out" "Team past it" "Hethrington out" "season in ruins" threads on here this morning. Surely people aren't starting to learn lessons?

EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE CLUB FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS OUT!!!

I was similarly dissapointed with the lack of a "can we go the whole season unbeaten" thread after last week's win.

Standards are slipping on substandard.

Perhaps it's the realisation (finally!) that the regular season games are meaningless, therefore why would anyone care or even bother to generate a thread about going the whole season unbeaten? Does anyone really give a toss about losing to Cas?

Finishing 5th two seasons running and still winning the SL title is going to have consequences which aren't just restricted to the slipping standards of the team itself during the regular season.

They are not meaningless if you don`t end up in the 8.

If that was the case I'd assume they were more meaningless. Just ask Bradford the last few years

I wonder if we now have 'Rhinos' fans now questioning Mr McDermott again after four defeats on the bounce?

Nah, par for the course this.