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| Quote ="exiledrhino"There's been two major problems in the last 2 years. 1 has been too many signings who were part of the squad, but would not likely be pushing for a starting spot (Roberts, Ruan, Warren, Olpherts etc.). It's created imbalance in the squad where there's too much quantity, not enough quality.
The second has been tactical, and the passive defence that has been discussed to death. The thought of Hall and Sivo bringing the ball back in place of Edgell and Lumb (though both did well for their age/size), coupled with a more aggressive defensive line will massively reduce the workload for our front row.'"
Our front row bar Oledski didn't do much work that was part of the problem. Agree completely about the yardage in backfield but I would be hoping for increased workload from our front considering in some cases you were lucky to get 15 minutes out of them!
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| I think Oledski abd Palasia starting with Lisone/ Holroyd / Jenkins on bench will give us a much better all round pack.
The FB and wings all have good go forward early sets and a fit Newman with Handley will help too.
I still think the back row is missing a hard runner but if Gannon has bulked up and health sticks that could be big for us.
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| Quote ="Loiner at large"Our front row bar Oledski didn't do much work that was part of the problem. Agree completely about the yardage in backfield but I would be hoping for increased workload from our front considering in some cases you were lucky to get 15 minutes out of them!'"
We'll have to agree to disagree. The end of the season is when we lost Handley and Miller (and of course Fus for the last game) in the backfield, and where we missed their yardage carries. For that reason, I don't think we saw benefit in the forward pack that we could have if they had all been fit.
The big question for the forwards next year is how Gannon and Holroyd go. I think Holroyd was trying too hard early in the season when he did play. Maybe putting him on the bench will allow him to go back to basics. As I understand the new salary cap rules, if neither end up playing, we may get some relief to look for new signings?
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"We'll have to agree to disagree. The end of the season is when we lost Handley and Miller (and of course Fus for the last game) in the backfield, and where we missed their yardage carries. For that reason, I don't think we saw benefit in the forward pack that we could have if they had all been fit.
The big question for the forwards next year is how Gannon and Holroyd go. I think Holroyd was trying too hard early in the season when he did play. Maybe putting him on the bench will allow him to go back to basics. As I understand the new salary cap rules, if neither end up playing, we may get some relief to look for new signings?'"
Spot on.
A fit Gannon and Holroyd is like two new signings and the pack looks decent.
If they're both out injured again, we look light.
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| If you read what the Eels fans say about Siva , he won’t be making much yardage in our half . 10 yards to the try line great , as a workhorse like Ash no .
Massively happy to see Holroyd back , hopefully he hasn’t lost any more weight as I think he got to light last year .
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| Yeah i'm not sure he's a Marcus Bai in that regard but BA will know better than anyone how to get the best out of him.
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| He will make more than fusi just through playing more than 12 games and that's enough for me.
If we can utilise him correctly and he can score like he did in NRL we will alot more of those games we lost by 2-8 points
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| Interesting how the NRL are now considering giving 7 tackles to the defending team following the kick off if the ball is kicked past the 25 metre line.
This they say will result in shorter kick offs and will eliminate the first carry and collision.
Just shows how Rohan Smith was ahead of his time!
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| Thought they said no to changing rules?.
How odd.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Interesting how the NRL are now considering giving 7 tackles to the defending team following the kick off if the ball is kicked past the 25 metre line.
This they say will result in shorter kick offs and will eliminate the first carry and collision.
Just shows how Rohan Smith was ahead of his time!
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They've decided against doing it
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| They’ve decided to kill that rule change because all that would have happened is that each kick off would result in a 7 tackle set. No change to the impact on the first tackle.
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| Quote ="Manheim"If you read what the Eels fans say about Siva , he won’t be making much yardage in our half . 10 yards to the try line great , as a workhorse like Ash no .
Massively happy to see Holroyd back , hopefully he hasn’t lost any more weight as I think he got to light last year .'"
If were going to use him as a battering ram out of our own 10, lobbing him diabolical hospital passes every other set while letting our forwards lazily avoid carries then we haven't learned the lessons from previous years and deserve all we get.
Sivo should not be wasted and burning up energy doing that, a few a game maybe but a Ryan Hall bulldozer out of yardage is not what we should be utilising him as, nearer the opponents line targeting the edges / smaller / less mobile wings yes.
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"We'll have to agree to disagree. The end of the season is when we lost Handley and Miller (and of course Fus for the last game) in the backfield, and where we missed their yardage carries. For that reason, I don't think we saw benefit in the forward pack that we could have if they had all been fit.
The big question for the forwards next year is how Gannon and Holroyd go. I think Holroyd was trying too hard early in the season when he did play. Maybe putting him on the bench will allow him to go back to basics. As I understand the new salary cap rules, if neither end up playing, we may get some relief to look for new signings?'"
Don't think so. Only change I can see that refers to injured players that makes provision for taking them off the cap is for players who miss more than 6 games as a result of foul play.
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| Brodie Croft back In training today, so we can put that nonsense to bed now.
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| TNW, new 3 year deal confirmed
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| That's good,we need to try keep the good young ones around and get them game time
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| Quote ="christopher"Brodie Croft back In training today, so we can put that nonsense to bed now.'"
Also good to see Holroyd in the training pictures. Massive year for him personally and massively important to the club that he does well.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"TNW, new 3 year deal confirmed'"
Happy with this. At worst he’s a bigger Donaldson. There was that one game back end of last year (I want to say against Catalan) where he was excellent and showed there’s potential to be more than that.
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| Sounds obvious but I really hope we get abit of luck with injuries this year. Last few years have felt pretty bad, though the crazy bans last season didn't help.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Happy with this. At worst he’s a bigger Donaldson. There was that one game back end of last year (I want to say against Catalan) where he was excellent and showed there’s potential to be more than that.'"
Good resign, not huge not small, mobile fit and seems resilient. Only 21 so could be a real solid Super league prop over the next 2-3 years. He can already step straight into first team rugby and should be cementing starting spot over his contract period. Maybe even push in another level or 2.
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| Yeah pleased by this news. Though for God's sake I hope we do a better job with continuing to develop him than we have with some in the past. There have been times when I've wondered whether we hand them a contract, pat em on the ars£ and tell them they're world beaters and just leave them to get on with it.
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| Is it this coming season the rules change around number of minutes played of did I dream that in a Bobby Ewing Stylee?
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| I thought it was games played. I've really not been paying attention lol
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Is it this coming season the rules change around number of minutes played of did I dream that in a Bobby Ewing Stylee?'"
The younger posters won't have a Scooby Doo what you're referring to there Batley
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"The younger posters won't have a Scooby Doo what you're referring to there Batley
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Well we have been a bit of a shower for the past few seasons.
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