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| Quote ="Seth"You couldnt have written the calamity that's been Holroyds season could you
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Not just this season either Seth….hasn’t strung any long run of games together since breaking into the first team…he also had injury problems when he was in the academy didn’t he?
I reckon he had (Maybe still does) the potential to be as good, if not better than Mik, but whereas Mik has proved his durability Tom certainly hasn’t…..yet and these never ending injury problems have to be a concern going forwards
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| I think the time will come and soon when the club make a decision on Holroyds future. If he cannot stay fit next season to manage at least two thirds of the games then maybe the time has come to cut him from the roster. I know lots will disagree but the fact is that for the past three or four seasons he has hardly played a game and in a salary cap sport that is not good.
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| Quote ="Steves"I think the time will come and soon when the club make a decision on Holroyds future. If he cannot stay fit next season to manage at least two thirds of the games then maybe the time has come to cut him from the roster. I know lots will disagree but the fact is that for the past three or four seasons he has hardly played a game and in a salary cap sport that is not good.'"
Agree. Kid looks to be made of glass
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| Quote ="Steves"I think the time will come and soon when the club make a decision on Holroyds future. If he cannot stay fit next season to manage at least two thirds of the games then maybe the time has come to cut him from the roster. I know lots will disagree but the fact is that for the past three or four seasons he has hardly played a game and in a salary cap sport that is not good.'"
He is under contract until end of 2025, so that’s not really an option. We need to persevere and hope his luck changes.
However, I agree with your concern and think it’s always a worrying sign when a player picks up serious injuries in training on a fairly regular basis.
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| Sutcliffe is under contract but he is joining Hull so movements are possible.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Agree. Kid looks to be made of glass'"
Meh! They said the same about JJB but he managed quite a few games in the end.
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| Think our outside bet of a grand final appearance is evaporating now……
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| Quote ="Steves"Sutcliffe is under contract but he is joining Hull so movements are possible.'"
True but that’s a long contract and given the injuries it’s unlikely any other team will offer him more coin for 3 years.
Plus there is some real potential in there if he can stay fit which is why we gave him such a long contract.
He is still very young for a prop and I just hope he can show his quality in future with Hunwicks and Smith guiding him.
Fingers crossed.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"True but that’s a long contract and given the injuries it’s unlikely any other team will offer him more coin for 3 years.
Plus there is some real potential in there if he can stay fit which is why we gave him such a long contract.
He is still very young for a prop and I just hope he can show his quality in future with Hunwicks and Smith guiding him.
Fingers crossed.'"
Potentials one thing, but his record is atrocious at best…….
Someone with half the potential , who’s played more games would have been more useful….
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| Quote ="Shabino"Potentials one thing, but his record is atrocious at best…….
Someone with half the potential , who’s played more games would have been more useful….'"
So what would you do, terminate his contract and pay him off? The only sane option is to let his injury heal, get him ready for 2023 and go again, which is what will happen. He has real talent, that's why people get frustrated. Talent is at premium in SL, and he's still young enough to realise his.
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| Quote ="ryano"Meh! They said the same about JJB but he managed quite a few games in the end.'"
Yes remember it well but JJB injuries IIRC weren’t as bad as Holdroyds
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| JJB broke his leg/legs didn't he? He certainly had a lot of injuries early in his career, but at some point started to become pretty durable for a forward. We've just got to hope Holroyd does the same.
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| When JJB had his injuries he was around 18 years old and presumably on a small contract and not 22 on a decent package. Bad luck, brittle, flaky call it what you like he is a luxury in a salary cap sport so next year has to be last chance..I hope he proves us wrong and has an outstanding season!
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| Quote ="Steves"When JJB had his injuries he was around 18 years old and presumably on a small contract and not 22 on a decent package. Bad luck, brittle, flaky call it what you like he is a luxury in a salary cap sport so next year has to be last chance..I hope he proves us wrong and has an outstanding season!'"
How bad is this injury? He's out for the season, but in reality that's a handful of weeks. I was really looking forward to seeing him play and I'm really gutted. That said - if he approaches 2023 fully fit and desperate to make his mark, he could do great things.
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That’s what I’d like to see to be fair
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| Quote ="Frosties."Hardaker
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That’s what I’d like to see to be fair'"
No, play players as close to their preferred positions as possible and get sezer and Austin playing in the halves as if we're going to do anything in the play offs they're going to need time together. Myler FB hardaker centre Martin 2nd row.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Hardaker
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That’s what I’d like to see to be fair'"
There's a Morecambe & Wise gag in there. It's all the right players but not necessarily in the right order.
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| Quote ="Rhino at work"There's a Morecambe & Wise gag in there. It's all the right players but not necessarily in the right order.'"
I’ll give you that sunshine
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| Quote ="Seth"No, play players as close to their preferred positions as possible and get sezer and Austin playing in the halves as if we're going to do anything in the play offs they're going to need time together. Myler FB hardaker centre Martin 2nd row.'"
Think that`s where I`m coming from Seth.
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| sounds like a couple of young lads making their debuts off the bench for Warrington, so hopefully we should have enough on the field to do the job
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That’s what I’d go with
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| Cannot take any side for granted, but surely this will be a breeze, cannot see past an easy win 42-16
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Cannot take any side for granted, but surely this will be a breeze, cannot see past an easy win 42-16'"
I'm not so confident. Warrington have got to start performing better at some point.
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| Quote ="Les Norton"I'm not so confident. Warrington have got to start performing better at some point.'"
Normally I’d agree, but it feels like warrington have been saying that every week and have barely seemed to improve.
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