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| Quote ="tad rhino"like I said I have no idea why. however it was a bit before the lance business'"
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| Quote ="William Eve"Would it be unusual for a number of players to want another player out if CEO and management made it clear by foul means or foul that they wanted that player out? Racial discrimination is a disgraceful way to go about one's business IMO.
I'm pleased the club has learnt from that experience and hasn't consciously, knowingly, unconsciously or unknowingly repeated the offences since.'"
Considering what's been mentioned about one of your previous aliases and talk of the Holocaust then you might want to get off that thin ice.  |
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Considering what's been mentioned about one of your previous aliases and talk of the Holocaust then you might want to get off that thin ice.
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Quote ="William Eve"I always liked Sterling.
Thought he was outstanding at times for Leeds, considering many fans thought he was too old when signed.
Shame he was treated so shabbily by the club in the end.
He didn't deserve that.
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Quote ="William Eve"I always liked Sterling.
Thought he was outstanding at times for Leeds, considering many fans thought he was too old when signed.
Shame he was treated so shabbily by the club in the end.
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Lovely try that, back in the days when wingers were built like proper wingers with speed and deft swerve rather than huge, barge-d, Charles Atlas, hit-up lookalikes who are sadly in vogue these days.
I was stood in the corner of the Southstand adjacent to the Western Terrace at the time. It is one of those moments that would make the Top 10 RL highlights of many folk who attended that fixture.
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Lovely try that, back in the days when wingers were built like proper wingers with speed and deft swerve rather than huge, barge-d, Charles Atlas, hit-up lookalikes who are sadly in vogue these days.
I was stood in the corner of the Southstand adjacent to the Western Terrace at the time. It is one of those moments that would make the Top 10 RL highlights of many folk who attended that fixture.
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Not one single mention for John Basnett. Shame on you all.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Lovely try that, back in the days when wingers were built like proper wingers with speed and deft swerve rather than huge, barge-d, Charles Atlas, hit-up lookalikes who are sadly in vogue these days.
I was stood in the corner of the Southstand adjacent to the Western Terrace at the time. It is one of those moments that would make the Top 10 RL highlights of many folk who attended that fixture.
I didn't realise that Sterling had rounded Michael Maguire and left him for dead.'"
Great try. I remember a try by steve Molloy bursting into that corner from around Half way against Saints in the CC early 90's, I was stood in that corner and always sticks in my mind. |
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| Quote ="William Eve"Lovely try that, back in the days when wingers were built like proper wingers with speed and deft swerve rather than huge, barge-d, Charles Atlas, hit-up lookalikes .'"
Lightweights like Billy Boston, Eric Grothe, John Ribot, Tuigamala, Joe Ropati, etc? Always had big wingers. I think your point should have been that all we seem to have today are power wingers. There's not much in the way of blinding pace in the game at that moment. Actually Scott Donald was probably the last really quick winger Leeds have had and I can't think of any off the top of my head who come close pace wise in recent years other than Kevin Penny. |
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BJB wasn't/isn't exactly slow or massive.
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Atkinson, Smith, Hall, Donald, Bai and I also liked Sterling
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With the current emphasis on attacking kicks to the wing it's hardly surprising that the small nippy wingers are a dying breed. It's the same in RU.
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| Quote ="DHM"Lightweights like Billy Boston, Eric Grothe, John Ribot, Tuigamala, Joe Ropati, etc? Always had big wingers. I think your point should have been that all we seem to have today are power wingers. There's not much in the way of blinding pace in the game at that moment. Actually Scott Donald was probably the last really quick winger Leeds have had and I can't think of any off the top of my head who come close pace wise in recent years other than Kevin Penny.'"
I think Andrew Frew was probably the fastest i've ever seen - him and Nathan Blacklock in his prime. |
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| Quote ="krisleeds"I think Andrew Frew was probably the fastest i've ever seen - him and Nathan Blacklock in his prime.'"
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Who was Offiah up against when he scored 10 tries against Leeds in one game. ?Fox
Atkinson by a country mile for me.
Off the field I still remember him at the Chained Bull in Moortown with his cousin Keith and one or two other Leeds players.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Who was Offiah up against when he scored 10 tries against Leeds in one game. .'"
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| Quote ="DHM"Quote ="William Eve"Lovely try that, back in the days when wingers were built like proper wingers with speed and deft swerve rather than huge, barge-d, Charles Atlas, hit-up lookalikes .'"
Lightweights like Billy Boston, Eric Grothe, John Ribot, Tuigamala, Joe Ropati, etc? Always had big wingers. I think your point should have been that all we seem to have today are power wingers. There's not much in the way of blinding pace in the game at that moment. Actually Scott Donald was probably the last really quick winger Leeds have had and I can't think of any off the top of my head who come close pace wise in recent years other than Kevin Penny.'"
Joe Burgess? Charnley is quick. Tom Johnstone? BJB? Kieren Dixon? David Hodgson was quick also, Jermain McGilvery? I would say though, that they're no world class 'pace only' wingers in the British game at the moment. I'm not sure there's many in Aus, either. |
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Of the Leeds wingers I've seen there were plenty of top class players but not all excelled in a Leeds jersey. I always thought ET was a good player but didn't he mainly play centre in his first spell? Second spell he wasn't as good. Grothe was very good. Hall is the best of the modern day bunch. Grothe and Hall for me.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Of the Leeds wingers I've seen there were plenty of top class players but not all excelled in a Leeds jersey. I always thought ET was a good player but didn't he mainly play centre in his first spell? Second spell he wasn't as good. Grothe was very good. Hall is the best of the modern day bunch. Grothe and Hall for me.'"
Ettingshausen started his first spell as a centre alongside fellow Cronulla team mate Mark McGaw in his first spell in 86/87 but ended up playing the majority of the season at full back.
He did, however, end up on the flanks in his second spell in 88/89.
Oh, and, the Guru was and remains my idol of the game. Could do with his like in the game today. |
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Quote ="Bullseye"Of the Leeds wingers I've seen there were plenty of top class players but not all excelled in a Leeds jersey. I always thought ET was a good player but didn't he mainly play centre in his first spell? Second spell he wasn't as good. Grothe was very good. Hall is the best of the modern day bunch. Grothe and Hall for me.'"
Ettingshausen started his first spell as a centre alongside fellow Cronulla team mate Mark McGaw in his first spell in 86/87 but ended up playing the majority of the season at full back.
He did, however, end up on the flanks in his second spell in 88/89.
Oh, and, the Guru was and remains my idol of the game. Could do with his like in the game today.'"
My wingers would be Grothe and Hall, and by a fair distance. Special mentions to Calderwood, Sterling and Bai.
ET was and still is an idol for me, but I'd have him as my choice for fullback. That bloke had it all, an out and out superstar, including movie star looks - he was definitely man crush material!
Imagine a backline of ET, Grothe, Senior, Innes, Hall, Schofield, Lyons...... You'd score 80 points a game. |
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| Quote ="Superted"My wingers would be Grothe and Hall, and by a fair distance. Special mentions to Calderwood, Sterling and Bai.
ET was and still is an idol for me, but I'd have him as my choice for fullback. That bloke had it all, an out and out superstar, including movie star looks - he was definitely man crush material!
Imagine a backline of ET, Grothe, Senior, Innes, Hall, Schofield, Lyons...... You'd score 80 points a game.'"
Great shout. Loved Lyons and ET, even though they were short stints they left a big mark on my young self too.
A great back line when you can afford to leave 'arguably the second best centre in world Rugby' out of your dream team  |
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Ettingshausen started his first spell as a centre alongside fellow Cronulla team mate Mark McGaw in his first spell in 86/87 but ended up playing the majority of the season at full back.
He did, however, end up on the flanks in his second spell in 88/89.
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Not quite right. He [istarted off[/i on the wing in his second spell. A combination of injury (floating bone in the knee, IIRC) and the excellent form of Gary Spencer at FB meant he had to play there. Later in the stint he went back to his natural position at FB |
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ET was the best in his era.
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I can't see how Grothe could be counted as anything other than a short-term guest player rather than an all-time great. He played all of 16 games, and we won none of the big games he played in. Of the Aussies of that period I'd say the only backs who should be considered when looking at all time great players were those who played more than one season - ET, Currie and Lyons. Those three would be in/nearly in my best of side from when I started watching in 81.
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Craig Innes was a great centre a true superstar - one of the best overseas Leeds ever signed in my view
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Innes was very consistent but I don't think at his best he was as good as say Iro (whose worst was terrible).
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