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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I'm actually, genuinely, hoping we get thumped on Friday.
If we manage to scrape a win, it would be solely down to the players playing their hearts out, and probably a few lucky calls, and nothing to do with McDermott's coaching ability. Were we to win, it would simply paper over any cracks and give McDermott a few more weeks/months grace. Losing is better in the long term.
As much as I'd love to beat Wigan, it would be short term satisfaction, and we'd wake up Saturday morning with McDermott still in charge. A heavy loss is the better result for the good of the team.
Deadly serious.'"
BMD won't get fired or kept on as a result of what happens tomorrow night. I want us to stuff the Goons.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I'm actually, genuinely, hoping we get thumped on Friday.
If we manage to scrape a win, it would be solely down to the players playing their hearts out, and probably a few lucky calls, and nothing to do with McDermott's coaching ability.'"
You can't have it both ways.
If we lose it's his fault and if we win it has nothing to do with him? That doesn't stack up at all.
Even if we lose 70-0 Mac will still be at the training ground come Monday morning. So I'd change tact in wanting us to get stuffed.
I'd like to see us win, amazing that ain't it.
It would be nice to see Leeds playing their heart out. But they are putting a shift in terms of effort, they are just falling well short on the application. With a shaky coach behind them it isn't going to be of much help.
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| he is just saying what everyone else is thinking.....
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"You can't have it both ways.
If we lose it's his fault and if we win it has nothing to do with him? That doesn't stack up at all.
Even if we lose 70-0 Mac will still be at the training ground come Monday morning. So I'd change tact in wanting us to get stuffed.
I'd like to see us win, amazing that ain't it.
It would be nice to see Leeds playing their heart out. But they are putting a shift in terms of effort, they are just falling well short on the application. With a shaky coach behind them it isn't going to be of much help.'"
Talking sense in the face of tery.
Typical Bloodbath.
Maybe McDermott senses the players are putting too much pressure on themselves and wants to lift some of that by making it clear that they are underdogs for this game (which they are, by some distance - any Leeds fan who doesn't genuinely believe that wants their head testing).
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| McMuppet is a clueless moron and shouldn't be let anywhere near the media. Once again I've had to endure ridicule for being a Leeds fan... from a Bulls fan???
He said "we might be playing s*it at the moment but at least our coach isn't making a tit of himself on national TV."
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| Mcdermott has seen sense!
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Maybe McDermott senses the players are putting too much pressure on themselves and wants to lift some of that by making it clear that they are underdogs for this game (which they are, by some distance - any Leeds fan who doesn't genuinely believe that wants their head testing).'"
I, with a glass half full mentality, would hope that was the train of thought Mac was tapping into. But if we're talking about application or failure of application - Mac being interviewed is always a bomb. Always a painful experience to watch!! (shudder)
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I, will a half full glass mentality, would hope that was the train of thought Mac was tapping into. But if we're talking about application or failure of application - Mac being interviewed is always a bomb. Always a painful experience to watch!! (shudder)'"
Let's be fair here - Tony Smith was hardly a model of eloquence and personality in front of the cameras, particularly when things weren't going well.
As has been pointed out, it wasn't unknown for him to make similar comments to the media either.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Classic Macca'"
I agree with him. I'm not going to Wigan either, expecting a win or otherwise.
I'm off to the pub expecting you to buy my beer all night. More chance of a Leeds win I guess.
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I agree with him. I'm not going to Wigan either, expecting a win or otherwise.
I'm off to the pub expecting you to buy my beer all night. More chance of a Leeds win I guess.'"
How about if Leeds win I will buy you half, is that ok.
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| What a plonker Professional Sport is about 2 things.
1) Winning
2) Entertaining the paying public
Sadly Mr McDermott you are no good at either, so go now and take the scumbag Lowes with you.
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| The point i was trying to make is now you are told that winning does not matter and about 3 years down the line they are in leagues so winning does become an issue just look at what being 6th in super league has done to this forum . I have come across only 1 coach in 3 years who was a bit 'too serious lets say ' We have for the record got 17 signed on and no one gets more game time, coaching or favouritism than the next.
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| How do you feel about him saying that everyones opinion apart from hetheringtion and the players is irrelevant? I would be gutted if Maguire said that, if any club didnt have fans they wouldnt exist in Super League, fans opinions are extremely relevant IMO.
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| What McDermott says to the press is unlikely to be what he says to the players - hopefully
Smith always banged on about performance - he is a pretty good coach.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"How do you feel about him saying that everyones opinion apart from hetheringtion and the players is irrelevant? I would be gutted if Maguire said that, if any club didnt have fans they wouldnt exist in Super League, fans opinions are extremely relevant IMO.'"
They are relevant to the business.
They should be irrelevant when it comes to team selection and tactics.
If fans seriously believe their opinions on individual players and strategy carry any weight within the dressing room they're only fooling themselves. You reckon Maguire picks his teams on the basis of whose name gets the largest cheer when it's read out over the tannoy?
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"How do you feel about him saying that everyones opinion apart from hetheringtion and the players is irrelevant? I would be gutted if Maguire said that, if any club didnt have fans they wouldnt exist in Super League, fans opinions are extremely relevant IMO.'"
Watching sporting clubs isn't like buying product - in most areas customers are king and suppliers will avoid upsetting them at all cost.
Not sure that is the case with sporting clubs - if you have a bad experience in restaurant you are unlikely to go back - yet we have a bad experience at Headingley every other week but keep returning?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Watching sporting clubs isn't like buying product - in most areas customers are king and suppliers will avoid upsetting them at all cost.
Not sure that is the case with sporting clubs - if you have a bad experience in restaurant you are unlikely to go back - yet we have a bad experience at Headingley every other week but keep returning?'"
Thing is now, Sports clubs aren't "Sports Clubs" any more. They are now there to impress stock exchanges and business partners rather than the average Tom, Dick & Harry who turn up every week
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| do leeds fans want him to succeed doesn't look that way. spoiled
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"do leeds fans want him to succeed doesn't look that way. spoiled'"
I want the club to succeed
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"do leeds fans want him to succeed doesn't look that way. spoiled'"
I want every coach to succeed how ever McDermott has only been in charge 8/9 months or so and the fan base has a very mixed opinion of him
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| Never liked the guy since he wouldn't sign my brothers rugby ball
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Thing is now, Sports clubs aren't "Sports Clubs" any more. They are now there to impress stock exchanges and business partners rather than the average Tom, Dick & Harry who turn up every week'"
Not quite true. If Paul Caddick just wanted to make more money, there were better ways he could do it. The balance sheet matters, but there's still more to a sports club than that.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Not quite true. If Paul Caddick just wanted to make more money, there were better ways he could do it. The balance sheet matters, but there's still more to a sports club than that.'"
It is fair to say that rugby league has stayed close to its roots in having owners who actually know about the sport, my comments were a rather general one at that
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"It is fair to say that rugby league has stayed close to its roots in having owners who actually know about the sport, my comments were a rather general one at that'"
Which sports were you referring to? Not many soccerball clubs turn a profit. No idea what the state of the finances are in Speedway, Ice Hockey, Basketball etc, but I'd guess there are faster ways to make a million. RU is rich sugar-daddied to the eyeballs as well.
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