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| Quote ="Frosties."assuming the results will end how the news says, the Cons will be in charge at 10 DS'"
Erm no they wont they dont have enough seats thank fook
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| Quote ="LFCRhino"Erm no they wont they dont have enough seats thank fook'"
Crucial times ahead and some serious inter-party negotiations to take place imo.
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| Cameron is right to say that the country wants a change from Brown, happily, it seems that he isn't the change they had in mind.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Cameron is right to say that the country wants a change from Brown, happily, it seems that he isn't the change they had in mind.'"
Yep,although the Lib Dems are gutted about their overall seats they still have a big say in the next government which may be good thing long term.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"
Have you seen their big posters?
[iLet's cut benefits for those who refuse to work ?[/i'"
I have. Right next to "community national service for 16 year olds".
I honestly thought they were a spoof by the Labour Party or the Lib Dems.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Everythings Gone Green'"
At the moment there are some trousers at Tory Central that might be going Brown.
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| Quote ="DHM"At the moment there are some trousers at Tory Central that might be going Brown.'"
Yep.
Everything has been so stacked in their favour yet they've still managed to screw it up. It really should have been a huge Tory majority yet they can't even get a majority of any sort. Proof if ever it were needed of their leadership's incompetence.
Ruffling 'call me Dave' 's hair before a televised debate and airbrushing some posters doesn't really add up to a credible election strategy. The only thing they've done well was the 'Dave is campaigning through the night' stunt - which was a clever one - and bribing the BBC to let Nick Robinson campaign for them on the news every day.
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| My mate Greg increased his majority and retained his seat.
Even our local nutter (he makes Damo look bland) managed to gather 200 people to vote for him and didn't come bottom of the list this time - mind he also managed "by a clerical error" to get himself listed on both the national and local ballot papers by means of accidentally spelling his own surname wrong on the wrong application paper - I nearly voted for him on the strength of that amazing blunder - how the hell he'd reconcile being elected to Leeds City Council AND as our MP I don't know...
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| Tory have got in my area I’m doomed!
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| worst possible result. Just drags things out.
We'll wind up having another general election within 6 months.
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| Conservatives have won the election, they should have the right to try and form a government but as a minority party it will be down to the other parties what policies they get to implement, that should be interesting
A lot of deperate labour supporters suggesting that as they didnt lose as badly as they thought that is somehow a victory
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| Quote ="Hopie"Conservatives have won the election, they should have the right to try and form a government '"
I'm a top bloke, I should be allowed to own a Ferrari. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that.
Constitutionaly the Conservatives haven't won anything and have no absolute right to form a government. If you want to discuss electoral reform then you would have to say that they only polled 36% of the total vote so far, that means 64% of voters don't want them - the majority. Also, the Lib Dems poll 22% of the vote but only get around 8% of the seats in parliament. So don't talk about "rights" and "winning".
Intersting times ahead. Crucially for Labour they haven't lost the big hitters in the party unlike the Tories when Blair thumped Major. The Tories were decimated, the head was cut off the chicken that day.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Yep.
Everything has been so stacked in their favour yet they've still managed to screw it up. It really should have been a huge Tory majority yet they can't even get a majority of any sort. Proof if ever it were needed of their leadership's incompetence.
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I suspect they didn't believe the polls were going to reflect the actual vote. My guess is they thought many traditional Labour people were unwilling to admit to wanting to vote Tory, and that the undecideds were mostly going to go for Dave in the end. Actually the polls seem to have been pretty good - apart from the Lib Dems dropping - but then that was soemthing I was expecting.
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| Quote ="DHM"I'm a top bloke, I should be allowed to own a Ferrari. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that.
Constitutionaly the Conservatives haven't won anything and have no absolute right to form a government. If you want to discuss electoral reform then you would have to say that they only polled 36% of the total vote so far, that means 64% of voters don't want them - the majority. Also, the Lib Dems poll 22% of the vote but only get around 8% of the seats in parliament. So don't talk about "rights" and "winning".
Intersting times ahead. Crucially for Labour they haven't lost the big hitters in the party unlike the Tories when Blair thumped Major. The Tories were decimated, the head was cut off the chicken that day.'"
Spot on.
I don't understand all the poncing and moaning. Nobody's won as a single party, and therefore no party is in a position to form a government without the coalition with others. Simples as that.
What Clegg just said on the Television seems ridiculous. They all know the rules before everything. Is Clegg selling out his own party? Is his true Tory routes coming through? or was it just for Television purposes?
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| Quote ="Hopie"Conservatives have won the election, they should have the right to try and form a government but as a minority party it will be down to the other parties what policies they get to implement, that should be interesting
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You really don't understand how it works do you?
Best keep quiet cos you've made yourself look a fool!
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| Who has the most to lose in the next few days?
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| Quote ="brannyrhino"You really don't understand how it works do you?
Best keep quiet cos you've made yourself look a fool!'"
I know exactly how the system works, I know that Gordon brown can try and form a governemnt, but I believe he will fail and at that point David Cameron will get his turn
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Constitutionaly the Conservatives haven't won anything and have no absolute right to form a government. If you want to discuss electoral reform then you would have to say that they only polled 36% of the total vote so far, that means 64% of voters don't want them - the majority. Also, the Lib Dems poll 22% of the vote but only get around 8% of the seats in parliament. So don't talk about "rights" and "winning".
Intersting times ahead. Crucially for Labour they haven't lost the big hitters in the party unlike the Tories when Blair thumped Major. The Tories were decimated, the head was cut off the chicken that day.'"
The conservatives have a higher vote share than the Labour party had in 2005, an even bigger majority did not want them, but that is not how the system works. I never said absolute right, I just think that it is not sensible for Gordon Brown to go it alone or for the LibDems to join him
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| Does anyone know if Lenny the Loiner had his backside handed to him in the locals again this time like he did here?
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Down in Dallas, Texas. You know you can go down there to Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated. And you can actually go to the sixth floor of the Schoolbook Depository. It's a museum called... 'The Assassination Museum' named after the assassination. Anyway they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it's really accurate, you know, cos Oswald's not in it.
Painstaking accuracy, you know. It's true, it's called the 'Sniper's Nest'. It's glassed in, it's got he boxes sitting there. You can't actually get to the window as such but the reason they did that of course, they didn't want thousands of American tourists getting there each year going "No loving way, I can't even see the road. poop they're lying to us".
There's no loving way.
Not unless Oswald was hanging by his toes, upside down from the ledge. Either that or some pigeons grabbed onto him, flew him over the motorcade... Surely someone would have seen that. You know there was rumours of anti-Castro pigeons seen drinking in bars... Someone overhead them saying 'coup, coup'
Surely that’s enough proof that they wanted rid of Kennedy by any means thanks to a dodgy crime scene. That speech amongst conspiracy theorist is widely regarded as the one that got rid of Kennedy!'"
So which Bill Hicks website is that copied and pasted from?
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"So which Bill Hicks website is that copied and pasted from?'"
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| Sorry if this has already been said but just seen that "We Beat The Scum One-Ni" managed to get 155 votes in Leeds central..
..[ialmost [/ican't believe someone ran under that name.
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| Quote ="Beastwood"Sorry if this has already been said but just seen that "We Beat The Scum One-Ni" managed to get 155 votes in Leeds central..
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Gabby Logan (nee Yorath) mentioned that on her Radio Five show last week. She didn't sound too upset about the name of the party.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Who has the most to lose in the next few days?
Nick Clegg'"
How do you work that one out?
He essentially get's to decide who will occupy number 10. Cameron's made him an offer. So despite losing the election he will probably have some part in the new government.
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