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| looks a good prospect. We have a lot of emerging players like watkins BJB Mcshane that are strugling to gain a bench spot ATM. I really think we should give them a better chance especially when we seem to have a lot of players on bad form. But does Bluey have the bottle to drop our so called star players? And before anyone rants about burning them out to quickly I'm only meanimng give them a decent spell not permanent.
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| I agree with G1 from the TV it definitely looked as if ball was stolen from Broughton's hand while he was being tackled by three players. Ref should've called for a ball steal and disallowed the try. Thought Broughton did look useful.
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| Wheres Ratu gone?
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| Quote ="graemek"I agree with G1 from the TV it definitely looked as if ball was stolen from Broughton's hand while he was being tackled by three players. Ref should've called for a ball steal and disallowed the try. Thought Broughton did look useful.'"
I disagree, thought it was a loose carry.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Wheres Ratu gone?'"
Nowhere, he's still in the reserves and managed to make the initial 19 man squad last week covering the International absentees.
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| Rats did his knee i think last season whilst out on loan, i am not 100% sure but i definately remember him suffering a bad injury.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Nowhere, he's still in the reserves and managed to make the initial 19 man squad last week covering the International absentees.'"
Never really looked the part at Halifax, he may be one of those players that really stalls as they move from Junior (where they really stand out) to Senior where they struggle.
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| Re the try - he dropped it whilst being attended to by three of Wakeys finest, unlike the rest of the Hull side he was trying a bit too hard!
First time I've seen him, but I was well impressed. Thought he was going to go 80 metres in the first half, we were lucky to stop him. Great attitude as well - if you don't want him, someone will!
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Be fair Richie - Robinson was a half back at Leeds (and when he first moved to Wigan). Mind you, how Leeds didn't spot the fact that Gareth Stephens would never amount to much is beyond me.....'"
I realise that you are well away from the action. So I will excuse you on this occasion. The fact is that Robinson was never a half back at Leeds. He signed directly from Hunslet Parkside to Wigan by Eric Hawley.
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| Quote ="Les75Jean"I realise that you are well away from the action. So I will excuse you on this occasion. The fact is that Robinson was never a half back at Leeds. He signed directly from Hunslet Parkside to Wigan by Eric Hawley.'"
Siddal in Halifax that he signed from, wasn't it?
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Siddal in Halifax that he signed from, wasn't it?'"
No!
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| Quote ="Les75Jean"No!'"
I think you'll find it was
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| Quote ="Les75Jean"I realise that you are well away from the action. So I will excuse you on this occasion. The fact is that Robinson was never a half back at Leeds. He signed directly from Hunslet Parkside to Wigan by Eric Hawley.'"
Are you on about Jason Robinson?
If you are then my apology, I thought you were on about Luke Robinson, who was also signed by Eric Howley.
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| Les - point is, Leeds had a good look at Robinson but decided that as a halfback he wasn't as good as Stephens. It's one of those oft-cited examples of Leeds' 'failure' to spot talent. IIRC they also chose not to sign Derryck Fox and Kevin Ward as juniors. Plus Schofield, Hanley, blah blah. Never mind we got Dave Creasser.
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| I'm fairly sure the way Robinson put it in his book Leeds hadn't made a choice - they wanted Robinson to play halfback as a trialist in an alliance game so they could assess him better.
The game clashed with an important Parkside game and Robinson felt the latter more important. Eric Hawley then seized the opportnity and approached Auntie Mo who took a punt on him immediately.
Not too dissimilar to how Eric Cantona came to Leeds not Sheff Wednesday - one club wanted a trial game the other was willing to sign without and took advantage of the delay.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"I'm fairly sure the way Robinson put it in his book Leeds hadn't made a choice - they wanted Robinson to play halfback as a trialist in an alliance game so they could assess him better.
The game clashed with an important Parkside game and Robinson felt the latter more important. '"
I haven't read the book but that's how I recall the missing out on Robinson going down. IIRC David Ward was the Leeds coach who insisted on the 'A' team trial first but I could be mistaken on that.
So near and yet so far
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| I had heard that Jason Robinson was somewhat lacking in the brains department and kept forgetting the moves discussed in training when playing half back.
Hence why Leeds decided not to take him on board and he was snapped up by Wigan who played him on the wing until he would eventually move to the halves.
The rest is history as they say.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If you think Yeaman's bad, just wait until Leeds eventually sign Ryan Atkins.'"
Yeaman and Atkins are off the same conveyor belt of average centres with a bit of size but very limited ability.
Shenton is far better than them both IMO. Even Gary Wheeler at Saints, playing out of position, has shown more ability to beat a man in the centres than I can remember seeing recently from Atkins or Yeaman.
Those two bore me to tears.
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| Don't be so snobbish.
Senior isn't as gifted as Gidley or Godden etc but his size, speed and power creates space in a different way.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Yeaman and Atkins are off the same conveyor belt of average centres with a bit of size but very limited ability.
Shenton is far better than them both IMO. Even Gary Wheeler at Saints, playing out of position, has shown more ability to beat a man in the centres than I can remember seeing recently from Atkins or Yeaman.
Those two bore me to tears.'"
Shenton will never sign for Leeds until he changes agent.
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| Quote ="G1"Don't be so snobbish.
Senior isn't as gifted as Gidley or Godden etc but his size, speed and power creates space in a different way.'"
You can't begin to compare Senior to Atkins or Yeaman, he's a zillion times better than both and was at the same age too.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Yeaman and Atkins are off the same conveyor belt of average centres with a bit of size but very limited ability.
Shenton is far better than them both IMO. Even Gary Wheeler at Saints, playing out of position, has shown more ability to beat a man in the centres than I can remember seeing recently from Atkins or Yeaman.
Those two bore me to tears.'"
I reckon the same two. Atkins and Yeaman have severley limited games. Neither of them have the class that Shenton posseses.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"You can't begin to compare Senior to Atkins or Yeaman, he's a zillion times better than both and was at the same age too.'" I'm not. I am saying they share similar attributes.
Senior has never posessed the footwork or sleight of hand of, say Gidley or Godden but Senior has used what he has - speed, strength and size - to create space for his wingers.
I am saying that is what the likes of Atkins and Yeaman have at their disposal.
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| Quote ="G1"Senior has never posessed the footwork or sleight of hand of, say Gidley or Godden but Senior has used what he has - speed, strength and size - to create space for his wingers.'"
Agreed, my point is Atkins and Yeaman treat wingers as an afterthought, Senior doesn't.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Agreed, my point is Atkins and Yeaman treat wingers as an afterthought, Senior doesn't.'"
Ash Gibson is able to treat wingers well but lacks that size which causes defences to cheat up on him, creating more space for said winger.
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