We can't blame the ref we made too many errors,Cas played better than us and had a far superior kicking game.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.

It's a fair point well made as it is, no need for any stats at this stage.

Can i just say that the Cas fans who actually went to the game tonight dont feel like that (well i don't)

I spoke to a few Rhinos fans tonight after the game and yes they admitted that we were the best team and deserved our win but this win doesnt make our season (far from it) and im not going to get carried away because knowing us we will get rolled over by Warrington next week. As far as im concerned there is still 26 rounds to go and my season doesn't end just because we have beat you at your place. I am sure..... no im positive you will bounce back from this because Leeds as a team are too good not to.

Good luck for the rest of the season apart from when you visit Wheldon Road (I hate calling it the Jungle)

Cas deserved their win.

I feel it's harder for Leeds to put 100% in these games at the start of the year after winning three consecutive championships. They always know they'll be there or thereabouts come the business end but it's a good reminder that you cannot just turn up and expect to win, you have to earn that right.

It's good to see Classy Cas starting off their season with a good win against last years champs and Rhino's at home too.
For a Champ side, that boast of having such massive attendences, it is surprising that only 5000 could be bothered to give Discin a thank you for all his loyalty to them. Thank goodness we Hull fans at leat know how to thank players for the same kind of loyalty. Is it cos the general 'attendences' are mainly freebes and therefore not feeling the same sort of loyalty..........just a thought...grannyfan Cindy

Cindy love, why do you always post drivel?

So you didn't "see" anything at all then.

Thought not.

Don't fret your elderly grey hair my dear, Mr Diskin was more than satisfied with his testimonial crowd and thats all that matters, now go make your husband a nice cup of tea, theres a love...

Go easy. Remember his bladders caved in. Its hard to type properly when distracted by a leaking 'Tena for men' pad.

No he was fine, called it as he and his assistants saw it, no problem at all with him (and this is not an ironic post, he really wasn't a problem)

So Leeds have lost one of the 27 friendlies that precedes the play-offs, like salford & london last year it gives Cas etc their day in the sun, this is why I was sat in the boozer with at least 10 former season ticket holders not batting an eye lid at the result, but who never missed a game when Leeds were under acheivers on cold afternoons in the 80's & 90's, when 2 points lost at home meant something. Don't think last night will be remembered come september time.

Well done cas didn,t expect a win like that.

thought we dominated the first half without scoring the points. second half cas hammered us. it didn't help having only 2 bench players and others getting fatigued. cas attacked jjb, playing centre, and exploited him time and again.

what really did us though was our shocking completion rate. we rarely got to a kick in the second half.

i'm not a fan of 4 forwards on the bench and that certainly cost us last night

fair play to cas, best team on the night, but we have lost games like this in the last three years and not done to badly.

We played the entire game like we did the first 60 minutes against the Welsh lot except the Crusaders didn’t have a fantastic kicking game to pin us back.

We seem vulnerable from the short grubber and Cas exploited this to perfection – out coached and stuck to their game plan.

Although in our defence losing Ablett early then injuries to Delaney and Eastwood screwed up our interchange plans, I don’t think it was the intention to keep JJB on the pitch for the full 80 even if he did a sterling job.

Looking at it logicly captain,Leeds and Cas are both in superleague,so why shouldn`t Cas win?

Yes well done Cas for a certainly well deserved win



We'll see you in the playoffs............no really

Can I just say well done to Leeds for messing up mine, and most probably everyone elses, betting coupon this weekend.

Harumph.

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Every dog (or in this case - cat) has their day. Shame it's in Round 1???

Can you name a professional coach anywhere in the world that supports that view?

Getting injuries in the backs is comparatively rare and when they happen you inevitable end up with disruption but the game doesn't really allow the luxury of carrying a spare back on the bench when it's the forwards that do all the hard work.

Graham Murray.

I always liked the blue print of an outside/utility back, a back rower and two front rowers on your bench. Covers all eventualities.

Murray often had two backs and two forwards on his Leeds benches.

Isn't he currently the coach of the Australian Women's team?

Wasn't Murray more to do with how he could utilise the specific players he had - specifically St Hillaire, Harris & Powell - that meant the back on the bench wasn't simply cover he was always going to come on tactically.

For mine its 2 props, back rower and a utility back or hooker.

Yesterday the natural cover for centre was switching Ablett but with him already being injured the delaney absence was more difficult to cover. I'd have expected Eastwood to do the job but presume switching JJB was the option due to the amount of gametime he was going to have to play.

It was but it was hugely succesful and TVOC did ask for the name of a coach who supported the view that you should have a back on the bench.



Mine too (see above). You're very clever as well as handsome.

I asked for the name of a professional coach who supported that view.

My bad as I obviously should have been more specific and asked for a current professional coach involved at so called 1st grade level.

The question was posed in relation to the current attitude towards the make of of benches in 2010 rather than how it may have happened somewhere in the last Millenium.

And no I wouldn't strictly consider the Australian Women's team as 1st grade level in this context, although they'd probably still give England a competitive warm up.