Leeds do this all the time - where did Achurch spend a lot of last season once Ferres was signed? If Leeds could have got rid they would just nobody was interested. You really do look at GH and Leeds through rose tinted glasses.

Isn't that the case in most working environments if something better comes along you are soon history - that's life its tough/brutal out there

But the whole point is that even though we wanted rid we continued to pay him and demand his commitment to the club, thereby honouring his contract. We didn't just cancel his direct debit and tell him to do one.

I must've missed that, apologies.

I'm assuming you've got a link to ANY news article that confirms Leeds ditched Achurch and didn't pay him last year after we signed Ferres?

Spot on.we were stuck with Achurch and his inflated wages for at least 2 years longer than the club would have liked. We couldn't just release him it doesn't work like that,because guess what...he had a contract and we had to honour it!

It's a shame the players seem to able to use said contracts as toilet paper these days when it doesn't suit them.

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You seem to be avoiding the point that he has handled this episode in a completely dishonourable and cowardly way. Most people will understand that he would rather play in the NRL and have the bonus of being near his family and friends. This debacle has shown his real character.

Yea he just complete undermined his own point there, but watch him ignore that fact and change the course of discussion to something else...

So players should only be worth a transfer fee if they've come through the academy of the club they're currently at? Don't be daft.

Seems to be a big thing about how short a time ago it was that he signed. It really doesn't matter if he signed 8 weeks, 8 months or 8 years ago, he's signed a contract.

And no they didn't pressure him into signing at all, he just obviously had no offers coming in from Australia. He wanted to sign for Leeds when it suited him (no other offers) and now wants to sign for Cronulla when it suits him. The guy wants his cake and eat it.

I know you always like to be critical of the club in any situation but to try portray them as some sort of bully who pressurised poor innocent Segeyaro into doing something he didn't want to do is flat out ridiculous. What he didn't want to do is be without a club. Had he taken that option he'd be a Cronulla player right now.

In most businesses that would be considered constructive dismissal - Leeds just tried to humiliate him out of the club!!

Replied so that's p1ssed on your bonfire

A transfer isn't decided by the time and skill put in to developing a player, it is decided by the market value of that player.

Just read John Boudebza signed for Lezignan. At 26, is he an option we could look at if we cut our losses with Segeyaro?

And what a reply it was. At least William Eve does a runner, for a few days, every time he's been made to look a fool, he doesn't further embarrass himself by making even more stuff up.

Have an early night mate, it'll do you good at your age.

Players are worth a fee based on their ability and what they'll bring to their new club.

As for your Harris example, we invested in and developed him as rugby LEAGUE player. Not as a UNION player so we had no development in him for the sport he was going to play but we got a fee.

What are you talking about? How is it constructive dismissal when we paid Achurch his full contract?
He left because his contract ended, he was never dismissed.

Granted you replied to the question but next time try give an answer that makes sense.

If we couldn't just ditch Achurch' scontract, then why should Segeyaro be allowed to ditch ours?

Your making no sense again! Surely you are just joking by now?

By your ruling we could pay Saints £500,000 for Roby (as they have developed him), but then after a couple of weeks he could walk out of his contract and move to the NRL for free?!

How did we try and humiliate him exactly?

Its sport. Only 17 in the team at any one time. Players know it and accept it. They may not like being picked, but its entirely up to them to make themsleves undroppable. I don't recall Achurch ever making that case.

Would you expect to get Roby for free - how much time have Saints invested in Roby? How much have Leeds contributed to making Segeyaro the player Cronulla want?

The key is to sign a player who genuinely wants to play for your club - it was obvious Segeyaro only signed for Leeds due to lack of options. Stevie Wonder could see that - it begs the question why did Leeds sign him in the first place? For exact same reason lack of other options - another poor decision by GH.

What happened to Falloon another example of a player who had his contract terminated early by Leeds - sometimes what goes around comes around

Sending an established SL player to turn out for a third tier side is humiliating. Sending youngsters or players recovering from injury is OK. Which other squad players were sent to Hunslet? when they deemed Sinfield not good enough to pick why didn't they send him to Hunslet if that's what you do with fit players not selected in the 17?

Pictures of Segs training with a number of Cronulla players (and T Carney) on twitter overnight, although it looks more a mates thing than a club training session.

Sal - I think you'd find any claim to have been humiliated would be laughed out of court. A professional sport by definition has players not in the first team. Why doesn't anyone who gets dropped claim constructive dismissal and walk out? Its not like an office job. I've never worked in an office where the top 17 staff get to work whilst a whole bunch of other staff continue to be paid but have to try to impress by working on their skills and hope to get picked the next day.

Sal, you talk so much BS.

Falloon was unceremoniously dumped by GH and Leeds in favour of Segeyaro, but spun in the media as a mutually agreeable termination of contract



As you say, what goes around comes around.

You won't get any of the sheeple onside.

They've already willingly taken the CEO's bait - Segeyaro to blame for everything that goes wrong in 2017.

Replace the 2016 version of SPOTY, the Kiwis, floods, training alongside tanned mincers in local gyms and mindsets of unconscious complacency with Segeyaro in 2017.

Jobs a good 'un.

Baaa-aaaaaaa-aaaaaa.

Mitch Achurch - established SL player......since when? Not at anytime really let alone a month into his first year when he went to Hunslet (who were 2nd tier at the time not 3rd) for a couple of games. So are you saying that in March 2013 we were already trying to humiliate him out of the club? Yet we picked him many times after when he wasn't injured and he walked back into the side for the CC final in 2015 even though Keinhorst had been performing well in his absence.